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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 01:39 AM
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Hey look, a liberal ****tard.
Wasn't he the tough brotha from the inner city that said guns are for pussies and you only need some street cred, baby powder and a strong pimp hand to survive in "the hood"?

Old Oct 13, 2009 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by brucelee
Lucky for me I have a lot of out-of-state friends in states like Nevada, Montana, and Iowa, all which are SUPER gun friendly so I can always have my friends send me ammo... I feel bad for folks who don't have that option.
Well, according to the statute, your friends from out-of-state could not actually just send you ammo. You'd have to physically meet up in a face-to-face transaction, and they'd need to verify your identity, via fingerprint, ID, etc. - I don't know to what extent they need to keep these records, but still.

The bill would provide, subject to exceptions, that commencing
February 1, 2011, the delivery or transfer of ownership of handgun ammunition may only occur in a face-to-face transaction, with the deliverer or transferor being provided bona ide evidence of identity of the purchaser or other transferee. A violation of these provisions would be a misdemeanor.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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good thing my katana needs no ammunition!
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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Its a sad sad day in California

"To the Members of the California State Assembly: I am signing Assembly Bill 962. This measure would require vendors of handgun ammunition to keep a log of information on handgun ammunition sales, store ammunition in a safe and secure manner, and require the face to-face transfer of ammunition sales.

Although I have previously vetoed legislation similar to this measure, local governments have demonstrated that requiring ammunition vendors to keep records on ammunition sales improves public safety. These records have allowed law enforcement to arrest and prosecute persons who have no business possessing firearms and ammunition: gang members, violent parolees, second and third strikers, and even people previously serving time in state prison for murder.

Utilized properly, this type of information is invaluable for keeping communities safe and preventing dangerous felons from committing crimes with firearms. Moreover, this type of record keeping is no more intrusive for law abiding citizens than similar laws governing pawnshops or the sale of cold medicine. Unfortunately, even the most successful local program is flawed; without a statewide law, felons can easily skirt the record keeping requirements of one city by visiting another. Assembly Bill 962 will fix this problem by
mandating that all ammunition vendors in the state keep records on ammunition sales.

As Governor, I have sought the appropriate balance between public safety and the right to keep and bear arms. I have signed important public safety measures to regulate the sale and transfer of .50 caliber rifles, instituted the California Firearms License Check program, and promoted the use of microstamping technology in handguns. I have also vetoed many pieces of legislation that sought to place unreasonable restrictions and burdens on firearms dealers and ammunition vendors.

Assembly Bill 962 reasonably regulates access to ammunition and improves public safety without placing undue burdens on consumers. For these reasons, I am pleased to sign this bill."

Just wanted to reiterate what that moron of a govenor actually signed.

It serves no law enforcement purpose other than hey look at me im a felon and buying ammunition. This is a reactive system where there is no way to catch it up front. It will only be after an audit "costing state money that could be going to teachers" that any felon or criminal or mentally disturbed person will be caught. Will it make them think twice about going down to the local gun shop and buying ammo? probably. Is that how criminals get thier ammo? Maybe but the point is it wont prevent CRAP.

I buy all my ammo via the internet. Why because its cheaper and easier to price shop. Now i will be forced to go to my local gun shop in livermore, or drive my hapy azz out to martinez to buy my ammo. The ammo in retailers is significantly marked up as is "I will say Canyon Sports in milpitas is reasonable". But when i say marked up im talking like 75% which is alot.

This is unbelievable. It will hurt our economy, internet sales companies will be hardest hit, and it just makes no sense at all.
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by brucelee
Lucky for me I have a lot of out-of-state friends in states like Nevada, Montana, and Iowa, all which are SUPER gun friendly so I can always have my friends send me ammo... I feel bad for folks who don't have that option.
QFP, sounds illegal.
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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QFP, sounds illegal.
A tyrannical government is illegal.
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
A tyrannical government is illegal.
Save your breath. Remember, this guy is that ... .

I'm thinking that it's time to open a non-profit ammo retail store. Who's with me? That way, we can pay internet-level prices, and bypass this stupid regulation. Government example has taught us there are loopholes in any laws; just ask Clinton, refer to the Patriot Act, etc.
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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It serves no law enforcement purpose other than hey look at me im a felon and buying ammunition. This is a reactive system where there is no way to catch it up front.
Wait, you mean that making crime more illegal/criminal doesn't further deter criminals?
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
A tyrannical government is illegal.
Oh pookie, dont't be so hurt. They only have more bullets, bigger guns, and unrestricted right to use them. Whats the worst that can happen?
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by brucelee
Thats what the Germans thought too... No one expected that. Who knows what will happen in the future. Think of economic collapse which slowly turns into chaos. You cannot predict the future and its naive of you to think that something like that cant happen. Perhaps not **** germany, but the gov't could try to take over with an iron fist, you just dont know it. Having armed citizens makes it not very likely.
i am surprised it took so long for godwin's law to kick into this thread. you guys are slacking!

its also great to see people who are such great defenders of the 2nd amendment of the constitution fall silent (or even argue against) other parts of the constitution.
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by STiForFun
Oh pookie, dont't be so hurt. They only have more bullets, bigger guns, and unrestricted right to use them. Whats the worst that can happen?
i don't know about more bullets compared to paul haha
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by STiForFun
Oh pookie, dont't be so hurt. They only have more bullets, bigger guns, and unrestricted right to use them. Whats the worst that can happen?

Which is easier?


1. Taking over an unarmed country with an iron fist. No regular non-military citizen has possession of any type of firearm.


2. Take over a country where the majority of it's citizens are armed with various types of firearms, from pistols to machine guns that would without a doubt fight back with whatever which way that they could to maintain their freedom against anyone who tries to take it away.


Also, keep in mind that our regular citizens outnumber our troops big time.



Now, now with whichever answer you chose, try to imagine which of those two options would more likely happen?
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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So basically what everyone is crying about is paying more for ammo?
There is a plus side here.
with everyone forced to do face to face transactions, your local economy will get a nice boost from all of the sales. And since you will be at the retailer more often, you will probably buy other **** too.
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by giusepi
So basically what everyone is crying about is paying more for ammo?
There is a plus side here.
with everyone forced to do face to face transactions, your local economy will get a nice boost from all of the sales. And since you will be at the retailer more often, you will probably buy other **** too.
I'm sure boosting the local economies def had a part to play in them stripping us of our rights.
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by c32c7
Wasn't he the tough brotha from the inner city that said guns are for pussies and you only need some street cred, baby powder and a strong pimp hand to survive in "the hood"?

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