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Truth comes out!
Some are saying Vettel will be let go... I think Horner will be fired before Vettel leaves Redbull.
Truth comes out!
Some are saying Vettel will be let go... I think Horner will be fired before Vettel leaves Redbull.
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Red Bull team orders row: Vettel says he would probably do it again - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
Truth comes out!
Some are saying Vettel will be let go... I think Horner will be fired before Vettel leaves Redbull.
Truth comes out!
Some are saying Vettel will be let go... I think Horner will be fired before Vettel leaves Redbull.
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and the team has said that Webber's car was detuned, but Vettel's was not. This was so that Webber would have enough fuel. I mean, it was CLEAR that Vettel was faster.
Team Orders are Stupid unless one driver is eliminated from the championship.
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Felipe Massa, who infamously had to hand victory to Alonso in the 2010 German Grand Prix (pictured), believes that team orders are acceptable provided the circumstances are right, even though what happened in Malaysia has led to criticism of such measures.
The Brazilian has had to cede position to Alonso several times, as well as handing Kimi Raikkonen the victory required to win the world championship in Brazil 2007 by deliberately running slowly on his in- and out-laps during the second pitstops.
But Massa has also benefited from team orders, with Raikkonen handing him second place in the 2008 Chinese Grand Prix.
"I'm not against team orders if it is an intelligent team order, at the right moment," said Massa.
"I have helped many drivers, even Kimi to help him win the championship and Fernando in important races last year when he was fighting for the championship.
"When it is an intelligent time for a team order, I have no problem, but sometimes it is not really so intelligent so I don't like it."
The Brazilian has had to cede position to Alonso several times, as well as handing Kimi Raikkonen the victory required to win the world championship in Brazil 2007 by deliberately running slowly on his in- and out-laps during the second pitstops.
But Massa has also benefited from team orders, with Raikkonen handing him second place in the 2008 Chinese Grand Prix.
"I'm not against team orders if it is an intelligent team order, at the right moment," said Massa.
"I have helped many drivers, even Kimi to help him win the championship and Fernando in important races last year when he was fighting for the championship.
"When it is an intelligent time for a team order, I have no problem, but sometimes it is not really so intelligent so I don't like it."
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I can see Webber leaving Red Bull after this season (either by choice or not having his contract extended). Vettel isn't going anywhere.
I can't wait to see how much more interesting this season will become.
I can't wait to see how much more interesting this season will become.
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Thank you. We have needed a F1 thread for a while now.
I think that Vettle was a bit selfish in that situation.
The post race was so awesome to watch.
The best was after Webber talked then Hamilton said to be honest i shouldn't be up here right now and Rosberg should be and he is a great teammate for not passing me.
"Seb will be protected like he always is"
This is going to be a great season.
I hope that Force India keeps it up not that I necessarily want them to win but its way more fun when its not Red Bull every race.
I think that Vettle was a bit selfish in that situation.
The post race was so awesome to watch.
The best was after Webber talked then Hamilton said to be honest i shouldn't be up here right now and Rosberg should be and he is a great teammate for not passing me.
"Seb will be protected like he always is"
This is going to be a great season.
I hope that Force India keeps it up not that I necessarily want them to win but its way more fun when its not Red Bull every race.
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And I don't give a **** for Webber. He's been unwiling to play team orders twice now...
Yet Seb is the "evil" one?
People just hate Seb cause he's fast.
"Oh, he can't win unless it's raining cats and dogs" After his first win.
"Oh, he can't win unless he's on pole" After his first RBR wins
"Oh, he can't win unless he's got a competitive car" He wins in the last race in 2010
"Oh, he's got the best car on the grid, he's ALWAYS had the best car" When he dominated in 2011... what happened to 2010?!
"Oh, he's got the best car on the grid, he ALWAYS had the best car" After last year... HELLO?! It went down to the last race again just like in 2010!
Other comments by haters:
"Oh, lets see him win a race when he's not on pole" He's got plenty of those now...
"Oh, lets see him actually pass someone" He's done that plenty now...
"Oh, lets see him show some *****... duke it out like Lewis/Schumacher/Alonso/jarjarbinks..." Well, when he does... he's an "*******"??
Keep hating haters *cough* Krinkov and Jourdan *cough*... Enjoy it when this guy collects more driver's titles than Schumacher.
Glenspen knows... I called it 2006. Kid is forreal. And if you love racing, you can't really hate someone this fast.
No one wants to watch team orders in race #2. If Webber's car was low on gas that's the teams damn fault or his engineer. Vettel was faster... no reason for team orders in race #2.
Over and out!
Yet Seb is the "evil" one?
People just hate Seb cause he's fast.
"Oh, he can't win unless it's raining cats and dogs" After his first win.
"Oh, he can't win unless he's on pole" After his first RBR wins
"Oh, he can't win unless he's got a competitive car" He wins in the last race in 2010
"Oh, he's got the best car on the grid, he's ALWAYS had the best car" When he dominated in 2011... what happened to 2010?!
"Oh, he's got the best car on the grid, he ALWAYS had the best car" After last year... HELLO?! It went down to the last race again just like in 2010!
Other comments by haters:
"Oh, lets see him win a race when he's not on pole" He's got plenty of those now...
"Oh, lets see him actually pass someone" He's done that plenty now...
"Oh, lets see him show some *****... duke it out like Lewis/Schumacher/Alonso/jarjarbinks..." Well, when he does... he's an "*******"??
Keep hating haters *cough* Krinkov and Jourdan *cough*... Enjoy it when this guy collects more driver's titles than Schumacher.
Glenspen knows... I called it 2006. Kid is forreal. And if you love racing, you can't really hate someone this fast.
No one wants to watch team orders in race #2. If Webber's car was low on gas that's the teams damn fault or his engineer. Vettel was faster... no reason for team orders in race #2.
Over and out!
