View Poll Results: What's my next Mod
Q-Rack - high ratio steering rack
4
10.00%
X-Brace
7
17.50%
RCE Black Springs
9
22.50%
Cobb Catted Downpipe
18
45.00%
Someone else I'm not thinking of?
2
5.00%
Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll
Next mod? X-Brace vs Downpipe vs Q-Rack vs Springs
06-17-2013, 01:12 PM
#31
Q rack is more than you need right now unless you absolutely hate yours. Which I doubt. It's really not that bad.
I'd say get some springs since you're running on some KILLER struts but stock springs. It'll bring the car down a little bit and stiffin it up a lot. That would be the next way I'd go. And you already have the bumpsteer.
After that... a catted DP and a tune adjustment to go with it. That's a pretty solid power gain for not too much money.
The Q rack is pretty up there in funds. You could do the DP, the springs and the X brace for the cost of a Q rack.
That's what I'd do.
If you're looking for something that's not on the list... I'd say Port/Polished/coated headers or a nice aftermarket header along with that DP.
I'd say get some springs since you're running on some KILLER struts but stock springs. It'll bring the car down a little bit and stiffin it up a lot. That would be the next way I'd go. And you already have the bumpsteer.
After that... a catted DP and a tune adjustment to go with it. That's a pretty solid power gain for not too much money.
The Q rack is pretty up there in funds. You could do the DP, the springs and the X brace for the cost of a Q rack.
That's what I'd do.
If you're looking for something that's not on the list... I'd say Port/Polished/coated headers or a nice aftermarket header along with that DP.
06-17-2013, 01:49 PM
#32
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I just ordered the Cowl Braces... for $100 it's hard to justify not doing that.
Once I get them in, I'll see how the car feels. Seems like these are directly addressing my turn-in issues.
After that it may be Downpipe time.
Once I get them in, I'll see how the car feels. Seems like these are directly addressing my turn-in issues.
After that it may be Downpipe time.
06-17-2013, 02:05 PM
#33
Then it'll be time to circle back around to my struts/springs again. I want koni/swift over my kyb/wagon pinks.
but for now my car is pretty dialed. can't wait to check out the fender braces though.
06-17-2013, 03:43 PM
#34
Yeah for my 06 sti the tic cowl braces made a difference but it was more minimal like the front strut tower brace. I would recommend them, but forgetting about the x-brace, and a front subframe to cross member brace is silly as they are truly needed in this car. THe x-brace not only made by far the largest difference in handling, but it also improved the ride as much as my ohlins fps. Downpie and tune is cool if you want more power, and a tune is usually good idea for motor safety.
this my setup, think thats it.
Ohlins fps
Rce blacks
Group N topmounts
Group Engine/Tranny/Pitch
Mild sways cobb/cusco
kartboy endlinks
subframe lock bolts
tic cross tranny cross member bushing
Sti pillow ball lat links & trailing arms
spt subframe to cross member brace
x-brace
tic fender braces
strut tower brace
this my setup, think thats it.
Ohlins fps
Rce blacks
Group N topmounts
Group Engine/Tranny/Pitch
Mild sways cobb/cusco
kartboy endlinks
subframe lock bolts
tic cross tranny cross member bushing
Sti pillow ball lat links & trailing arms
spt subframe to cross member brace
x-brace
tic fender braces
strut tower brace
06-17-2013, 03:54 PM
#35
I was looking at building myself a quick release x style brace for my wagon. If I can figure out how to do it correctly I'll probably build a few and sell them.
And the subframe is huge. If I was looking at spending dough I'd just get something like the duluck subframe.
And the subframe is huge. If I was looking at spending dough I'd just get something like the duluck subframe.
06-17-2013, 04:25 PM
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The X-brace is def on the list... don't get me wrong. For the $ it's just hard to argue with the Cowl braces.
The plan with the car is from the Herb Adams' school of street car suspension design. Somewhat soft compliant springs to avoid having the car skitter over rough pavement. Massive swaybars to control the car when you need them to. Take all of the slop you can out of the chassis. And NO polyurethane bushings in rotational applications (ever).
The plan with the car is from the Herb Adams' school of street car suspension design. Somewhat soft compliant springs to avoid having the car skitter over rough pavement. Massive swaybars to control the car when you need them to. Take all of the slop you can out of the chassis. And NO polyurethane bushings in rotational applications (ever).
06-17-2013, 04:37 PM
#38
The X-brace is def on the list... don't get me wrong. For the $ it's just hard to argue with the Cowl braces.
The plan with the car is from the Herb Adams' school of street car suspension design. Somewhat soft compliant springs to avoid having the car skitter over rough pavement. Massive swaybars to control the car when you need them to. Take all of the slop you can out of the chassis. And NO polyurethane bushings in rotational applications (ever).
The plan with the car is from the Herb Adams' school of street car suspension design. Somewhat soft compliant springs to avoid having the car skitter over rough pavement. Massive swaybars to control the car when you need them to. Take all of the slop you can out of the chassis. And NO polyurethane bushings in rotational applications (ever).
What's this poly bushing thing all about? Are you meaning in endlinks and trailing arms and things like that?
I don't like them either but in road use they often make sense. I had spherical in my endlinks and I don't think I'll ever do that again. It just doesn't make that big of a difference and they are more prone to failure under abusive conditions.
06-17-2013, 05:04 PM
#40
the subframe to crossmember brace is like 130 bucks from spt, I didn't mean the after market subframe. If you watch the video how how the car moves without then w xbrace back there its crazy. It's a huge flaw in the gd chasis design. Theres a reason this mod was so popular when from carlabs TIC bought the rights and started remaking it awhile ago.They aren't really one to make claims of performance in terms of numbers and TIC's info page for it says;
The end benefits are these:
12% increase in torsional rigidity
10% increase in lateral acceleration
0.1g increase on skidpad
Improved slalom speed / time
Significantly reduced lap times
improved ride quality
Fewer squeaks and rattles
The end benefits are these:
12% increase in torsional rigidity
10% increase in lateral acceleration
0.1g increase on skidpad
Improved slalom speed / time
Significantly reduced lap times
improved ride quality
Fewer squeaks and rattles
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06-17-2013, 05:38 PM
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the subframe to crossmember brace is like 130 bucks from spt, I didn't mean the after market subframe. If you watch the video how how the car moves without then w xbrace back there its crazy. It's a huge flaw in the gd chasis design. Theres a reason this mod was so popular when from carlabs TIC bought the rights and started remaking it awhile ago.They aren't really one to make claims of performance in terms of numbers and TIC's info page for it says;
The end benefits are these:
12% increase in torsional rigidity
10% increase in lateral acceleration
0.1g increase on skidpad
Improved slalom speed / time
Significantly reduced lap times
improved ride quality
Fewer squeaks and rattles
The end benefits are these:
12% increase in torsional rigidity
10% increase in lateral acceleration
0.1g increase on skidpad
Improved slalom speed / time
Significantly reduced lap times
improved ride quality
Fewer squeaks and rattles
CarLabs Development X-Brace - Subaru GD
Happy now?
