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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 12:23 AM
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That info wasn't in "Clash if the Titans" though....hum?

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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 12:31 AM
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thats because the black vs white football problem didnt have quite as much prevalence in 3598 BC
Old Jan 31, 2003 | 12:33 AM
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hahahaha

I got away with one the other day. I'll tell ya another day

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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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I heard that you can take traffic school as much as you want, but the ticket still shows up on the list DMV keeps. It is their rule that says you can't take traffic school within 18 months of each other to remove the point. Or actually, the infractions can not take place within 18 months of each other. So even if you take traffic school the point may still be there.

Can someone clarify this?
Old Jan 31, 2003 | 09:32 AM
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When you take traffic school, that point is removed from both your public and private records.
Old Jan 31, 2003 | 10:06 AM
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Three months isn't all that close.
It is for a beauricratic organization...
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 11:12 PM
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yeah, i'm sure. the trick is to call the automated service to pay your bail amount by credit card. then when they ask you if you want to pay the amount that includes the additional fee for traffic school, just say yes and pay the extra. since you got your tickets so close together, i bet they won't register in time and you'll be eligible for traffic school for all three. i suspect that a human will look at them at some point but you may just get lucky and get traffic school on all three. i recommend calling on three different days to do the three different tickets so.

it'll cost you a pretty penny but it just might work. then, if you end up getting denied traffic school you can still plead not guilty to the charges. then you gotta get a lawyer. good luck and slow down!!!
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by Steppin Razor
yeah, i'm sure. the trick is to call the automated service to pay your bail amount by credit card. then when they ask you if you want to pay the amount that includes the additional fee for traffic school, just say yes and pay the extra. since you got your tickets so close together, i bet they won't register in time and you'll be eligible for traffic school for all three. i suspect that a human will look at them at some point but you may just get lucky and get traffic school on all three. i recommend calling on three different days to do the three different tickets so.

it'll cost you a pretty penny but it just might work. then, if you end up getting denied traffic school you can still plead not guilty to the charges. then you gotta get a lawyer. good luck and slow down!!!
NOOO!!! If they find out that you did that, what they are doing to do is keep the $, and tell the DMV to post the 2 other points as convictions... This is how it works. Either he gets away, or he REALLY screws himself over.

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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 11:30 PM
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NOOO!!! If they find out that you did that, what they are doing to do is keep the $, and tell the DMV to post the 2 other points as convictions... This is how it works. Either he gets away, or he REALLY screws himself over.

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I'm pretty sure that if give you the option to do traffic school, they absolutely cannot give you a conviction without you pleading guilty. By asking for traffic school, you are NOT admitting guilt.
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 11:32 PM
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I'm pretty sure that if give you the option to do traffic school, they absolutely cannot give you a conviction without you pleading guilty. By asking for traffic school, you are NOT admitting guilt.
Getting the tix in the first place is the guilty part. It's law, you cannot take traffic school more than once every 18 months

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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 11:44 PM
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Getting the tix in the first place is the guilty part. It's law, you cannot take traffic school more than once every 18 months

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That's where you are wrong. By signing a traffic ticket you are not admitting guilt. You are saying that you agree to show up at the court at a certain time to be charged with the offense in question. You can plead guilty, not guilty, or no contest just like any other crime you are accused of. In this country you are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE. Of all people I thought you would have know that Gagan.

For some traffic violations you are able to request traffic school which erases the point from your record. Since the courts are so busy, many times they will allow you to go to traffic school more than one time in 18 months. There have been documented cases in which people have been allowed to go to traffic school more than 8 times in one year and still have PERFECTLY CLEAN records.

When you request traffic school, the court charges a ~$30 fee on top of the bail amount just to allow you to attend traffic school. They also make you pay a $13 surcharge for using your credit card. Many times that is much better than having to pay the cop overtime to show up, and paying the entire court staff to be there to listen to you plead not guilty. Even if you do lose, you are still only going to forfeit the bail amount, but if they let you do traffic school they get the bail amount plus the $30 fee and the $13 credit card fee.

Make more sense now?
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Not signing the tix, speeding, and getting pulled over.

The idea: innocent, until proven guilty

reality: guilty, and good luck proving otherwise...

I dunno, i can't risk having a conviction happen like that.

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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 12:26 AM
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Yeah, I totally agree and although it might sound like it, I'm not giving this information to try to get people to speed. I'm just trying to help another i-clubber (whether he deserves it or not).

I got lucky getting out of that ticket, and I know I have to be careful now. I'm in the same boat as you Gagan, but you should check out www.ticketassassin.com it might change your perspective on this topic a bit. For certain tickets, it is obvious that they are given with the assumption that the person will just pay the ticket even though if the person fought it, there's no way it would hold up in a court of law. Just because you're going 2 miles an hour over the speed limit doesn't mean that it was unsafe for the conditions. Therefore you shouldn't have to pay a fine for driving 2 MPH over the speed limit if it was safe for the conditions. You see where I'm going with this?
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Yep, refer to this thread https://www.i-club.com/forums/showth...&threadid=8608

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