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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 04caliwrx
I am willing to put money one the libe about what car modded will last longer. It takes lots of money to have a 400hp sti. and a modded STI is not what you would call "reliability" I 'm not a mustang fan, I just think it's great how most fords are well built and designed cars now.

2011 sti is 37k 305hp stock
2011 mustang GT 25k 415hp stock

put a turbo kit and everything you need to "build" that mustang into it for 12k and your at the price of a new stock sti. Tru AWD is great, but if someone is low on cash and wants a well rounded new sports car the muastang really does seam like a great value.
True, there is no arguing that. It's the better car for the money. And props to Ford for stepping it up big from the garbage they produced in the 90's. But I still can't come to like a Mustang. I like having performance and being able to take my friends for a great ride or giving them a comfortable ride home. Plus, the mustangs don't look as nice as a nicely modded WRX or STi.
Old Jul 11, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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Putting the GT up against the Challenger SRT8 and for my $$ its the Mustang all day.
The Challenger SRT8?

Hopefully it's got more HP than those slow-*** Chrysler 300 SRT8's, because my wife can embarrass one of those in her Forester.
Old Jul 11, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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The Challenger SRT8?

Hopefully it's got more HP than those slow-*** Chrysler 300 SRT8's, because my wife can embarrass one of those in her Forester.
I think the challenger is the best looking muscle car out right now period, but I think its more in the STi $35k+ price range so I would exactly call it a rival to the 5.0 GT.
Old Jul 11, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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03-04 supercharged Mustang Cobras hit 600+ whp easy with bolt ons and have been pulling 10s for the last 6-7 years.
Old Jul 11, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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If the Challenger was 9/10'ths the size/weight , I'd agree....cuz I loved some Dukes of Hazzard back in the day. But its a damn "plus sized model".
Old Jul 11, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by guillermo
lol yeah. I would never take a mustang. As great as the numbers may seem, i just don't trust ford. Rather than getting a mustang, i'll take a stock sti and have performance, reliability and a much safer car, any day.
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Krinkov
03-04 supercharged Mustang Cobras hit 600+ whp easy with bolt ons and have been pulling 10s for the last 6-7 years.
Yes and no 600whp on a stock blower NO 470-490 on a potted blower yes with every bolt on u can think of. But yes stock blower mustangs can hit 10's for that 600whp+ you will need a Kenny Bell with race gas. Also the stock 03-04 terminator is one of the only forged and hand built engines on American cars.
Old Jul 11, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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I wonder how the build quality is compared to mustangs in the 90s.
I'm sure they have improved a great deal, but one does have to question how much the car will be worth in say 4-5 yrs.
Probably not near what a '11 Sti or Evo X will be
Old Jul 11, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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also I wouldn't even consider getting a Mustang simply because it's just too popular. at my high school there were easily ~20 mustang's in the parking lot. how many WRX's? Just 2-3. People had to ask what my car is... I like being unique lol
Old Jul 11, 2010 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by perry753
also I wouldn't even consider getting a Mustang simply because it's just too popular. at my high school there were easily ~20 mustang's in the parking lot. how many WRX's? Just 2-3. People had to ask what my car is... I like being unique lol
^^^+1! Amen to that. Mustangs are far too common. I like the uniqueness. Nobody at my high school had a WRX. People barely even knew Subaru existed.
Old Jul 11, 2010 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 04caliwrx
I am willing to put money one the libe about what car modded will last longer. It takes lots of money to have a 400hp sti. and a modded STI is not what you would call "reliability" I 'm not a mustang fan, I just think it's great how most fords are well built and designed cars now.

2011 sti is 37k 305hp stock
2011 mustang GT 25k 415hp stock

put a turbo kit and everything you need to "build" that mustang into it for 12k and your at the price of a new stock sti. Tru AWD is great, but if someone is low on cash and wants a well rounded new sports car the muastang really does seam like a great value.
When it comes to a pure horsepower race and straight line racing, it will always be difficult to defend any Subaru against big block American products. There is no replacement for displacement.

However, what will happen when your 600+ hp Ford GT will approach a corner with its 4,000 lb curb weight, numb steering, and Victorian era suspension (*cough* LIVE REAR AXLE *cough*)? What will be the point of having all that power if you will be unable to use it safely put it down?

There is a purpose to every vehicle and set up. I respect and like both sides for their own reasons (I have owed couple muscle cars myself), but trying to directly compare them in areas they were never meant to from the very beginning is delusional.
Old Jul 12, 2010 | 09:30 AM
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^ very true, you had a 03 cobra right?
Old Jul 12, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 04caliwrx
^ very true, you had a 03 cobra right?
Yups, 2003 Cobra and 1988 Oldsmobile Cutless before that
Old Jul 12, 2010 | 10:52 AM
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I don't think a 100 shot is a "simple bolt-on" . Pretty cool non the less.

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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Divide the performance numbers AND engine displacement in half and it ain't that impressive.
That would put us at 2.5l and 206hp. That's pretty good for a stock NA engine. Subaru's current 2.5l NA motor only puts out 170hp.

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