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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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Not really the end... I mean the end to the UNDER productive and wealthy life styles of Americans. We have been consuming too much, buying too much, expecting too much, paying executives too much, and even paying main street too much.

There is a very simple damn solution to make a deficit up in ANY country. Being able to sell something to other countries that they want to buy and afford. See all those guys in China with bicycles? They need cars, we should be making cars to sell to them. We have too many cars, we got like what? 3-5 per household? So many of them go into the junkyards, too. We need to get cheap, and when I say cheap, I MEAN we need to get CHEAP. Cheap wages, cheap executives, and materials need to be cheap. That way we can sell **** to other places that will BUY from us. That's how we get out of a deficit.

Everyone has been sitting on the housing bubble, and that blew up. Basically this "wealthy American lifestyle" was a fudging of asset numbers. Kind of like me buying a piece of land, the land supposebly goes up another 300-500%. That land isn't real goods, you can't sell a home outside of the United States. The difference between cars and houses was supposedly one appreciates and the other one always depreciates. What happens when you have too many houses? Exactly what happens when you have too many cars, it sells cheaper, then no one wants to buy them.

The end? America might be dissolving as it is, rumors say we might be with Canada and Mexico... but the truth is that America is just a pawn being used to dominate the world. Whether politically or by force, we're just tools being used. We have nuclear threat and we don't want others to have it. We think we can spread democracy and tell others what to do in their own countries. We think we can fix terrorism, that's a never ending battle. We think we can defeat Al-Qaeda, but that's another name for a never ending battle. We think all the countries should be united in a New World Bank.... but that's another way to control other countries.

All countries need one thing, even 3rd world countries, or countries just trying to survive, and that is a labor force. Even without much of a functional government, you need labor force. United States people think we're worth more and unions think we're worth more and we refuse to work for less.

No wonder why all our jobs are outsourced and companies sneak mexicans across the border, WE THINK we're better and deserve better, when in reality we need to overthrow our own dumb *** TOO big government, and let the free market fix and create jobs. The more the government funds the people who are supposed to get new jobs, the more it digs our "borrow and consume" economy in the hole. When people stop loaning us money (which is damn soon since our debt is too high) that's when you'll need one thing.

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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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Think about how people felt during the great depression! Times were much worse back then compared to now... They had worse wars then us, think about it, they were smack in the middle of two of the worst wars in our history, WWI and WWII, so they had just exited WWI which ravaged the hell out of the world, and had WWII to look forward to! To top it all off, everyone was homeless and people lived in Shantee towns that were comparable to the ones in India! No one had a job and unemployment was at its highest in US history...

Murder was up higher then it ever was and even the cops were crooked, so you couldn't even depend on the law to come through.

Makes our time look peachy and filled with sunshine and warmth.


Our economy is going to recover in a few years and we'll be out of this hole. If the US was able to come out of the great depression then we can get out of this, especially now that we have so many over seas supporters (well, compared to then)...

Also, what about the cold war era where we came as close as you can possibly get without actually going to nuclear war as humanly possible. Some people really don't know how close we got to exchanging missiles with the USSR... It was literally a 50/50 coin toss decision. It came down to a submarine captain making the call... but he was out of communications range so he had to make the call, and imagine how paranoid our guys were since we thought that the USSR was really going to launch their nuclear missiles... So yeah, that was a friggin rough time... Imagine thinking that the Russians were going to nuke us at any time... F' all that, I'd be so paranoid, so much more then I am now, hahah...

So yeah, we're not in trouble, at least not like the many times we've been in a hole in the past 100 years.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Lboogie
"It's the end of the world" Puhleeze, stop being worry worts over nothing. Really, how much worse is your individual life with all the "bad" stuff going on? Other than the economy, the majority of us haven't been impacted directly. Any other fear is just hype you're sheepishly buying into.

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amen.

if people would stop forming opinions solely on headlines they read, people would realize that things aren't nearly as bad as we're led to believe.

i don't know a single person or business who has been negatively affected by the economy who was truly good at what they do. so far it's been a weeding out of the mediocre. sorry if that offends anyone...

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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RussB
amen.

if people would stop forming opinions solely on headlines they read, people would realize that things aren't nearly as bad as we're led to believe.

i don't know a single person or business who has been affected by the economy who was truly good at what they do. so far it's been a weeding out of the mediocre. sorry if that offends anyone...

Now you do...my business is up ~125%
Old Apr 4, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Now you do...my business is up ~125%
lol. i suppose this confirms my theory... someday i'll have to bring a car up there for some "work".



i guess i should have written "i don't know a single person or business who has been negatively affected by the economy who was truly good at what they do. so far it's been a weeding out of the mediocre. sorry if that offends anyone... "
Old Apr 4, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrisnonstop
End times, Armageddon, the day of reckoning...whatever you want to call it. Scientists have already predicted the end of the world. Our sun has a finite life span and when it goes we all go. So, unless we get off our asses, stop fighting each other, work on new space travel technologies, and figure out how to get off this rock and expand our civilization, we are doomed. Granted, not you and me, we won't live long enough to see that day. No, all we have to worry about is going to work, paying our mortgages, and making sure we have enough to retire on so we can die comfortably. How exciting. As for the world falling into chaos in 2012, we wouldn't be so lucky. How exciting that would be! Survival of the fittest.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RussB
amen.

if people would stop forming opinions solely on headlines they read, people would realize that things aren't nearly as bad as we're led to believe.

i don't know a single person or business who has been negatively affected by the economy who was truly good at what they do. so far it's been a weeding out of the mediocre. sorry if that offends anyone...

i agree its dumb to overreact and buy into the media. but this post wasnt about personal effect of the economy or personal sorrow. just a wide world observation.

far as business owners not being effected, i know many private ones that have been, and my store thats coorporate (goodyear).

world might not be coming to an end and it might not be as bad as wwII BUT
there is a whole lot going on around us that we are completly oblivious about.[/

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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by brucelee
Our economy is going to recover in a few years and we'll be out of this hole. If the US was able to come out of the great depression then we can get out of this, especially now that we have so many over seas supporters (well, compared to then)...
They're going to push back the stock market toward the ranges of where we peaked out, and then when more people invest, crash it again to get more people in debt. I still don't understand how the United States in a few years (which estimated shows that we're going to be even a few more trillion in dollars of debt) will be out of this mess. If you understand how our borrowing and consuming strategy is happening then where did you come up with the conclusion we're going to be good in that small amount of time? I think in that small amount of time, there will be a brief push on the market, and then a huge (worse than the depression) fall for the United States. We just aren't exporting enough goods to make trillions with everyone making so much money.

Originally Posted by brucelee
So yeah, we're not in trouble, at least not like the many times we've been in a hole in the past 100 years.
We've never seen a hole of multiple trillions. This time, we have the most countries ever investing in the dollar and then they know we aren't going to pay it back, they're going to stop investing and we aren't going to get anymore money.
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when the earthquake comes soon, its just going to add onto this chaos talk of the near ending of teh world
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Now you do...my business is up ~125%
Thats because people dont have money for engine rebuilds before tunes....
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