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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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Its 10, if you count practice squads he has been on.

Alex needs a chance now that he is healthy and that his offensive cordinator isn't completely incompetant. He has been setup for failure here, played injured most of the snaps he took last season and has had 4 different offenses in 4 years.
I agree.

Not to mention they through him in to a terrible team with a TERRIBLE line as a rookie and expected him to save the team. A lot of rookies fall apart when that happens and it can ruin careers. Smith is a good QB and if they give him time and a decent chance he'll be just fine.

Unfortunately for him I don't think that this is the year or the system or the coordinator.

I still don't see them putting him 3rd. I think this is just trying to get people reps and to tell him he's gonna have to work for the spot. Starting day I'd be surprised not to see smith starting. Hill second and JT third.
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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No, I dont think he should be starting QB becuase, including the 49ers, he has played for 10 different teams. When a player has played for that many teams, there is usually a reason.

I am also mad becuase of all of the talk about Alex Smith and his confidence. What does naming O'Sullivan starter do to SMith's confidence level? It destroys it, any hope of Martz breathing life into Smith's career is over if he is not the starting QB on opening day.
Well put....with the pressure we already put on Smith with the stupid commercials comparing him to Montana or naming him the next great QB, you'd think that we would build him up. I really would like to see what Martz is capable of doing to Smith's career, especially with all the time and money invested. Let's not forget, Smith actually had some really great displays of potential when he was in.
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Guys, calm down.

JT O'Sullivan was only named the starter for the next pre-season game. He has been practicing with the 1st Team, Smith with the 2nd team and Shaun Hill wasn't even found according to the sources (I think it was either Yahoo Sports or NFL.com). They have not named their starter for the Opening Game of regular season yet, but according to what I saw, they were saying that they would not be surprised to see JT as the starter come opening day.

There was an interview with Braylon Edwards (same draft class as Alex Smith) and they asked him about what he thought of Alex Smith. He said he thought he was a good quarterback, but he should not have been # 1. He was selected # 1 because of the needs of the team.

Didn't Martz just come from the Lions? Wasn't JT O'Sullivan just with the Lions? It would make sense that O'Sullivan is probably adapting to the Martz system better than the other 2 just because he has already been playing in that system for another team.

Personally, I really liked what I saw in Shaun Hill at the end of last season. Alex Smith - I am not a believer in him being our next great QB. I think at some point you have to cut your loses, but since he has technically not played in the same system for longer than 1 year I guess we can give him some slack because how can you ever get good if you keep changing systems.

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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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Well put....with the pressure we already put on Smith with the stupid commercials comparing him to Montana or naming him the next great QB, you'd think that we would build him up. I really would like to see what Martz is capable of doing to Smith's career, especially with all the time and money invested. Let's not forget, Smith actually had some really great displays of potential when he was in.
He played very well under Turner and the three games he played healthy last year looked good too, not to mention we won 2 of them. The recievers are much improved this year, although still not all that good, we have a legit backup in Foster, I think Davis is due for a big year combine that with the fact we get to play Seattle, Arizona and St. Louis 2x, Buffalo, Miami, Detroit, and Washington, I would say there is a pretty good chance we could win 9 games and the division this year. Of course we would get blown out in the playoffs, but its a step in the right direction.
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Originally Posted by flukewrx
Guys, calm down.

JT O'Sullivan was only named the starter for the next pre-season game. He has been practicing with the 1st Team, Smith with the 2nd team and Shaun Hill wasn't even found according to the sources (I think it was either Yahoo Sports or NFL.com). They have not named their starter for the Opening Game of regular season yet, but according to what I saw, they were saying that they would not be surprised to see JT as the starter come opening day.

There was an interview with Braylon Edwards (same draft class as Alex Smith) and they asked him about what he thought of Alex Smith. He said he thought he was a good quarterback, but he should not have been # 1. He was selected # 1 because of the needs of the team.
There was not a #1 in that draft at all, it was the weakest of all the draft classes in recent memory.
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I agree.

Not to mention they through him in to a terrible team with a TERRIBLE line as a rookie and expected him to save the team. A lot of rookies fall apart when that happens and it can ruin careers. Smith is a good QB and if they give him time and a decent chance he'll be just fine.

Unfortunately for him I don't think that this is the year or the system or the coordinator.

I still don't see them putting him 3rd. I think this is just trying to get people reps and to tell him he's gonna have to work for the spot. Starting day I'd be surprised not to see smith starting. Hill second and JT third.
His first year was a disaster, he was much, much, much better in his second year, showed improvement under an incompetant OC for three games before he got injured and now he has one of the best offensive minds in the game, a veteran reciever to be a leader on the field and a recieveing corps that might not be the worst in the league for a change. This is his year to prove himself. If he fails this year we should be done with him, but he needs to be given a chance. If JT is the starter opening day we are doomed and Mike Nolan should be fired before the bye week.
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Originally Posted by jewpac42
He played very well under Turner and the three games he played healthy last year looked good too, not to mention we won 2 of them. The recievers are much improved this year, although still not all that good, we have a legit backup in Foster, I think Davis is due for a big year combine that with the fact we get to play Seattle, Arizona and St. Louis 2x, Buffalo, Miami, Detroit, and Washington, I would say there is a pretty good chance we could win 9 games and the division this year. Of course we would get blown out in the playoffs, but its a step in the right direction.
Yeah, Davis should have a good year, given that he's healthy...either way, I think that we should reconsider this...but as stated earlier, they're probably talking about just the preseason....we'll see
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We had to pick Alex Smith

I'm still pissed they didn't take Aaron Rodgers (who's doing pretty well in GB, steal draft pick) instead of never under center in college Alex Smith.
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i still remember thinking david and smith would be a great tandem and would change the face of the franchise. what have these two overpayed athletes done? squat. (pun not intended)

still hoping this year will be different though!
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Originally Posted by av98
We had to pick Alex Smith

I'm still pissed they didn't take Aaron Rodgers (who's doing pretty well in GB, steal draft pick) instead of never under center in college Alex Smith.
seriously! i remember watching rodgers on TV while he was still at Cal. he scorched the field every game. remember all that hype about who the niners were gonna pick? rodgers or smith? looks like SF got the wrong pick. this always seems to happen to bay area sports teams. gsw lose baron davis. no football, no basketball to watch. guh....
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My roommate just informed me.JT knows the Martz offense already, which is good because it is a fairly difficult offense to learn.

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rodgers has had the benefit of sitting on the bench. Learning a system. Learning from one of the greatest QBs ever to play. Time to mature on and off the field.

Smith was in the worst possible position. Bad team. No time. Thrown in the fire. I wouldn't be surprised to see the niners give up on him and see him in about 3 years doing well somewhere else.
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Originally Posted by av98
We had to pick Alex Smith

I'm still pissed they didn't take Aaron Rodgers (who's doing pretty well in GB, steal draft pick) instead of never under center in college Alex Smith.
If Alex Smith had the benefit of sitting on the bench watching one of the greatest QB's ever to play and learning from him for 3 years I bet he would be pretty good too.
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Originally Posted by pwnx0rz
i still remember thinking david and smith would be a great tandem and would change the face of the franchise. what have these two overpayed athletes done? squat. (pun not intended)

still hoping this year will be different though!
They are still both under 25, VD has been injured and his production has improved every season, not to mention when you only have 2 offensive players to worry about you can throw a lot of coverage at Davis and Gore.
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Originally Posted by flukewrx

Didn't Martz just come from the Lions? Wasn't JT O'Sullivan just with the Lions? It would make sense that O'Sullivan is probably adapting to the Martz system better than the other 2 just because he has already been playing in that system for another team.
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Yea my buddy Piete just told me about that. JT knows the Martz offense already, which is good because it is a fairly difficult offense to learn.
Isn't the pre-season specifically for that? Shouldn't Smith be learning the system at game speed with the first team? If O'Sullivan knows the system, why is he getting all the reps? Shouldn't he be sitting if he has command of the system? It makes no sense to me at all, but most of what Nolan does really doesn't make any sense at all.

If I were John York I would have gone into the locker room at half time of that game against the Raiders when he kicked a 22 yard field goal with 20 seconds left in the half of a pre-season game and fired his *** right then and there.



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