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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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sean is not BSn i've seen both clips and sean won both times.
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Sean, I'm glad you're enjoying to tune and putting it to good use .

I'd like to clear up a couple things. Sean's 249whp on EIP's dyno was with his complete current setup (TBE, CBE, headers) but on the stock ECU. I don't know what the conditions were like during this pull, but either way, its not too usefull to compare that number against any of his numbers from my road dyno. It seems like Sean's car was always pretty strong and the tune really brought out its potential. This is deffinately one of the fastest stock turbo STI's I've tuned. That being said, I don't think EIP's dyno reads all that high. I'd personally be surprised if this car makes over 285whp on their dyno. The whole point of Sean's "story" is that dyno numbers don't really mean much in the real world. You don't race on a dyno.

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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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295WHP on a Evo 9 isn't that low??? Either way looks like you have a freak on your hands be carefull and get some 1/4 times
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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great numbers Sean

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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by STi-owns-evo
Where the hell did that come from? Did he hurt your Evo pride or something?
Not at all, considering I've owned both cars, I just know the limits of each one

First off, read the post.
hehe, this should be good. Pot, meet kettle below

He stated that the EIP read high, as it read 249 whp on a STi with a cbe.
He said he did 249 with a CBE, DP, and coated/ported stock headers. Basically the same mods as he has now, just not tuned. And to say the EIP dyno reads low is false. It is a MD just like gruppe-s and reads VERY similar (5whp difference maybe)

While Ed's dyno reads @ 215 w/ a stock STi.
. Which means what? His car was not stock when he ran at EIP and it wasnt stock when he got tuned. Secondly, 215 is about the same as stock STis put down at both gruppe-s and EIP, so ed's road dyno is actually pretty accurate.
Secondly, that means it's a 62 whp different, not 28. As I'm sure you know, that's a huge jump on an AWD car. So, considering he jumped 62 whp from Ed's tune
No he didn't, read the thread. When he ran his buddies IX, he put down 249 at EIP, his buddy put down 295. Its an apples to apples comparison. He did not gain 62whp from the tune, 28-30 is more like it. Either way, 30 or 60 whp does not mean a difference in almost 10 cars on a highway run. I think driver error played a roll in both before and after runs. If it was in fact a clean run from a roll, hp/weight ratio is the key factor, the evo would win this race since it still had more hp and weights a tad less, but I digress

and then put that on a high reading dyno, the EIP dyno probably would have read somewhere around 315-320 range.
. Read above. The EIP dyno DOES NOT read high. Breaking 300whp at EIP is a similar feat to breaking 300whp at Gruppe-s. VERY VERY few STis break 300whp on the stock turbo at GS on the stock vf39, with racegas/meth Jeremy should be very close I believe. TBE/Tuned IXs are hitting 300whp on 91 @ EIP. Similar to a fully tuned and cammed VIII on 91. Not only that, but im sure the area under the hp curve is more for the evo

Save your flames for Nasioc.
Read read the thread before you flame

And I wasn't flaming, I was just calling it how I see it. Am I not allowed to voice my opinion? He has a great tune and the curve is sweet, but that doesn't turn one into an evo spanking monster over night, especially not a IX thats putting down 295whp on 91 on a mustang dyno.

But I agree with ed, dyno numbers dont always translate to track times. I'd love to see his 1/4 mile times when he runs it

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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gilmore25
295WHP on a Evo 9 isn't that low??? Either way looks like you have a freak on your hands be carefull and get some 1/4 times
Not on a mustang dyno on 91 with just a TBE, MBC and tune. Thats a big number for any car on a mustang dyno
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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I really don't know about the 8-10 cars on the stock ECU... that seems a bit excessive to me as well. I'd like to point out, however, that after Sean flashed the Cobb Stage 2 base map he was still 1-2 cars behind the Evo. After the 91 octane tune he's about 1 car ahead in the same race... that's what I like to see .

To be honest, I was surprised at the outcome as well. I thought that after the tune he would be pretty much dead even with the Evo. But this just re-affirms that dyno numbers are just a guideline and don't necessarily dictate how the car is going to perform in the real world. Maybe the 295whp was on a much cooler day... maybe the STI has more area under the curve, maybe it was a sort of a glory run and the power levels don't stay consistant on the road... maybe the moon was in different phase... who knows. The important thing to gather from this is that you can't determine what car is going to be faster in the real world based dyno numbers alone.

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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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I agree. Just because the evo put down 295 that day, doesnt mean it is consitantly, all good points you bring up
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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I sure wish that you would do some Ecutek tuing again

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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperHawk
I sure wish that you would do some Ecutek tuing again

Super

I wanted the same. But Cobb is a better platform, and know a thing or two about customer service.

**** Ecutek. They won't last much longer anyways.
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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indeed, cobbs AP is a great unit
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperHawk
I sure wish that you would do some Ecutek tuing again

Super

I know what you mean... it sucks that I can't support those who already paid for an Ecutek license, but Cobb really is a better system all around and their support is unmatched.

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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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ubsti i assure you there was no driver error
if u think i can drive consistant try placing second place on saturday bracket racing on sacramento raceway.. and for my friends evo his very consistant driver he goes to the track with me too so im sure we was both out top of our game
we prolly been involve in track racing longer than u have.. so dont post stupid comments.. hell i bet u THINK DYNO NUMBERS are very very important in racing factor... dyno is dyno hahahaha damn dyno racers

or maybe my graph is different from his
or maybe torque wins the race
i have 314 wtq on 95 degree weather
and he has 305wtq on 80 somthign degree weather in a dyno
or my car reacts to coldertemp
or react better on real condition cuz my friends evo is tune on a dyno
or maybe i got a freak motor

and theres nothing wrong with his car PUAL EIP is planning redyno my friends evo
and pual even said it the EVO 9 is running jus perfect as it was jus freshly tune

before i got tune and be before he was tuned

i had crucial headers perrin down hks catback
and he has jus full TBE exhuast catless

if u still unsure about the result
feel free to PM me and check out our cars

iite man

that **** dont mean **** anyways

have u even been in EIP or dynoed ur car at EIP?
if u havent been in a dyno at all, dont even bother commenting about the numbers cuz seems like u based speed or 1/4 time on dyno

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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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get full exhuast for ur evo 9 MR and then get it tune for 91 octane get much power out of it then PM me then will see some result
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Originally Posted by downsti
ubsti i assure you there was no driver error
if u think i can drive consistant try placing second place on saturday bracket racing on sacramento raceway.. and for my friends evo his very consistant driver he goes to the track with me too so im sure we was both out top of our game
we prolly been involve in track or street racing longer than u have.. so dont post stupid comments.. hell i bet u THINK DYNO NUMBERS are very very important in racing factor... dyno is dyno hahahaha damn dyno racers

or maybe 60 mph roll is not good for tune evo
or maybe my graph is different from his
or maybe torque wins the race
i have 314 wtq on 95 degree weather
and he has 305wtq on 80 somthign degree weather in a dyno
or my car reacts to coldertemp
or react better on real condition cuz my friends evo is tune on a dyno
or maybe i got a freak motor
theres alot of reason y i took the win



and theres nothing wrong with his car PUAL EIP is planning redyno my friends evo
and pual even said it the EVO 9 is running jus perfect as it was jus freshly tune

before i got tune and be before he was tuned

i had crucial headers perrin down hks catback
and he has jus full TBE exhuast catless

we race at the same speed
60 - 120 he would always take
my front bumper was about one car lengt from his rear bumper
and trust me no diver error there buddy

jus to let u know

when i was tuned and he was tuned
we raced for 5 bucks haha
so im sure his at the top of his game
and i was too

if u still unsure about the result
feel free to PM me and check out our cars

iite man

***KKK DYNO NUMBERS
that **** dont mean **** anyways

have u even been in EIP or dynoed ur car at EIP?
if u havent been in a dyno at all, dont even bother commenting about the numbers cuz seems like u based speed or 1/4 time on dyno

Now you are just making your self sound like an *** sean. :\



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