Find a navigator and get one of these!



It's got two seats, y0!

 

Plus V8's are more efficient at speed, not in traffic

You haven't heard about the guy that stands on some onramp in berkley or something with a sign that says Pay me $20 to get the work in $20. He just rides along and you drop him off in SF and he does the same thing back, makes like a couple hundred a day or something. Saw it on a blog a while back.

 

That's the best I-Brid sticker :rotfl:

 

That makes no sense IMO. If you were to give the gas guzzlers the HOV lane sticker, it would prompt more people to buy gas guzzlers for the added benefit of not having to sit through traffic. In effect, it makes everything worse for the environment and for congestion because now you have these huge-*** soccermobiles all over the place, making it all worse.

The reasoning for hybrids in the lane is pretty simple actually. The carpool lane was designed to encourage people to carpool to work and reduce overall emissions by cutting commute from 4 cars to 1. This, of course, is doesn't work in practice because no one likes to car pool. But, since it was designed to help save the environment, it makes sense to allow hybrid vehicles with only a single driver. On the other hand, carpool lanes were designed also to reduce congestion which obviously the single-driver-in-a-hybrid solution doesn't address at all.

I don't think its a great solution, but it is what it is, and sort of makes sense as it stands. But, as with all things political, it gets twisted and becomes a game to see who can cheat the system the best, without breaking any rules.

 

But doesnt the carpool lane actually add more traffic and congestion?

 

Compared with no lane? No.
Compared with converting it to a regular lane? Of course.

 

There have been numerous times where i have been stuck in traffic getting passed by people in walkers, Office Space reference, while nobody is driving in the carpool....

 

what ever happened to those "i-club ok" stickers?

 

Yes, but the HOV lane doesn't create traffic in and of itself, unless it was a regular lane converted to HOV. But, most HOV lanes are added onto existing lanes, so in most cases adding HOV lanes doesn't increase traffic. Personally, I think congestion would be better served if the lanes were just converted over to regular lanes. The current setup is at least a step in the right direction. Giving SUV drivers HOV passes is three steps back.

I guess there have been numerous studies, though, that say adding lanes doesn't help too much. The issue with traffic isn't width and more lanes but flow. When a lane is added, it only temporarily reduces traffic congestion and is back to being just as busy within four years or less. The only solution with traffic is to simply live closer to work (or work closer to home) and that's not that great of a solution.

 

nKoan....where are you located? socal?

 

Nope, but I lived there for 5 years.

I moved to a place that has very little commuting traffic, save for one interchange, which I avoid crossing unless absolutely necessary. I live in Reno.

 

Or make people get off their cell phones and learn how to ****ign merge without coming to complete stops in the middle of the freeway!

 

absolutely, the drivers in socal are unbelievably dumb. I can't tell you the number of times I've come to a complete stop just because two cars were parked on the shoulder and everyone had to take a frikkin look. They're dicks too.

 

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I used to live in King's Beach/Truckee. My uncle lives in Reno as well. The reason why I asked where you were from was because it sounded like you were talking about the carpool lanes down in LA and SD. Where it is completely blocked off from other traffic, but there are still 4 lanes of highway available for the non-carpoolers. I know it will never happen but, I would love to see something like that happen in the Bay Area. Yeah right pipe dreams.

 

since hybrids are in the carpool lane and not carpoolin, what an oxymoron...I say the only pass that they should have is to be able to use the carpool lane to get onto the freeway and that's it.
If you haven't realized what the government is doing and pushing hybrids then I would say look into it before you buy one. Like anything dealing with the government, there's always an M.O. about it.

But I really don't mind much about the hybrids not carpooling. It's the nonhybrid driving singles in there aka driving dirty. That pisses me off along with all the asshats that tailgate and cut people off. I'm thinking as if driving like that will get you to work faster. Let alone to do it everyday...my gosh :duh: