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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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Keeping the fact that cars oftentime don't see motorcycles (for a variety of reasons) in mind, it seems pretty silly to me that the motorcyclist thought that 250kph on city streets is a good idea.

Just for the record, 250kph = ~150mph = ~220 feet per second. So in 3 seconds, the motorcycle has crossed a distance equivalent to over 2 football fields. That's moving pretty fast, I'd say. And when a vehicle is headed directly for you or at small acute angles, it's very difficult to get an idea of speed.

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Originally Posted by Bismarck
Keeping the fact that cars oftentime don't see motorcycles (for a variety of reasons) in mind, it seems pretty silly to me that the motorcyclist thought that 250kph on city streets is a good idea.

Just for the record, 250kph = ~150mph = ~220 feet per second. So in 3 seconds, the motorcycle has crossed a distance equivalent to over 2 football fields. That's moving pretty fast, I'd say. And when a vehicle is headed directly for you or at small acute angles, it's very difficult to get an idea of speed.

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how the hell did you figure that out....
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Do we know for sure it was on city streets? It just said intersection which could mean anywhere. No matter what 150 is extremely fast but if it was on some country roads with not much traffic i could understand the rate of speed he was going, to some extent.
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how the hell did you figure that out....
Math.
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Do we know for sure it was on city streets? It just said intersection which could mean anywhere. No matter what 150 is extremely fast but if it was on some country roads with not much traffic i could understand the rate of speed he was going, to some extent.
Generally speaking, 150mph on anything other than a closed course is asking for trouble, regardless of time, road conditions or other factors. Yes there are edge cases where you can get away with it, and yes, I have personally exercised some of those edge cases. But that still doesn't make it a wise choice, for me or anyone else.

Personally, I couldn't care less if some idiot wants to go out and do the magical transformation on his body from human being to fine red paste. Doesn't bother me one bit. But if said jackass takes anyone else with him, be it a passenger in the vehicle, pedestrian or other driver / rider, that's inexcusable. In my book, that buries the needle on the Ghey-O-Meter.
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I completly agree with you, but there are a couple ways this could have been avoided and not all of them are on the motorcyclist.
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Without knowing the circumstances of the incident, it's impossible to make that determination. But usually there are multiple factors contributing to any collision, so I would not be overly surprised to learn that the driver of the car had some fault in this one.


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Originally Posted by Bismarck
Math.

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Originally Posted by Bismarck
Keeping the fact that cars oftentime don't see motorcycles (for a variety of reasons) in mind, it seems pretty silly to me that the motorcyclist thought that 250kph on city streets is a good idea.

Just for the record, 250kph = ~150mph = ~220 feet per second. So in 3 seconds, the motorcycle has crossed a distance equivalent to over 2 football fields. That's moving pretty fast, I'd say. And when a vehicle is headed directly for you or at small acute angles, it's very difficult to get an idea of speed.

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very true. Friend of mine a couple years back died. Going fast. Person in a truck didn't see him coming. Pulled out in front of him. He couldn't correct. Clipped the truck and died. Luckily he didn't injur anyone else or kill anyone else. But it was very much a tragedy still felt all over the local motorcycle scene to this day.


pretty crazy. I wonder what it looked like before they "cleaned it up. No good.

I had a buddy in college nearly die like this. He was going down a city street...WAY to fast...about 90mph he figured. Truck backed out of his driveway directly in front of him. He barely had time to apply the brakes. Hit the truck and smashed right into it. Ended up busting himself up pretty damn good. Had rods in his leg and arm on the left side. Less than a year later...rods still in he was out on the track with a faster bike.
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Originally Posted by A 04 GUIZE
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OK, I'll spell it out for you:

Givens:
1 mile = 5280 feet
1 hour = 3600 seconds
1 kph = .6213712 mph.
1 yard = 3 feet.
1 football field = 100 yards = 300 feet.

Thus, 250 kph = 250 * .6213712 = 155.3428 mph.

155.3428 mph = 155.3428 * 5280 = 820209.98 feet per hour.

820209.98 feet per hour = 820209.98/3600 = 227.83611fps

Rounding up, 228feet per second, or .76 football field.

See, better living through math. :banana:

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Originally Posted by blue blurr
I completly agree with you, but there are a couple ways this could have been avoided and not all of them are on the motorcyclist.


So you're saying the whole thing wouldn't have been avoided entirely if the motorcyclist wasn't doing one hundred fifty ****ing miles per hour?
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Originally Posted by Oaf
OK, I'll spell it out for you:

Givens:
1 mile = 5280 feet
1 hour = 3600 seconds
1 kph = .6213712 mph.
1 yard = 3 feet.
1 football field = 100 yards = 300 feet.

Thus, 250 kph = 250 * .6213712 = 155.3428 mph.

155.3428 mph = 155.3428 * 5280 = 820209.98 feet per hour.

820209.98 feet per hour = 820209.98/3600 = 227.83611fps

Rounding up, 228feet per second, or .76 football field.

See, better living through math. :banana:
Umm...did you include the end zones??
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So you're saying the whole thing wouldn't have been avoided entirely if the motorcyclist wasn't doing one hundred fifty ****ing miles per hour?

maybe not. Sounds like that car pulled out very slowly pretty much right in front of the bike. Only difference would have been that if he was going slower he probably would have clipped the car...those in the car would still be alive and he'd still be dead.

I'm guessing there is a reason that it was specified that the car was going SLOW. in other words not paying attention to anyone around them.

Don't get me wrong, it's clearly the motorcyles fault. He clearly was going to fast for his skill level and far to fast for the conditions.


but hey.....far as I know, in most countries...if you pull out in front of someone and the rearend you/hit you...it's your fault .....not theirs.

Unlike here were the person doing the rear ending is ALWAYS at fault. Stupid.



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