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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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yeah the fun / cool factor be damned


im getting a prius
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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man, the Prius is a piece of **** car that does nothing to help us. Its expensive, and that battery only lasts a decade. Tell me, what happens to it after its discharged completely and they have to replace it, OUT OF WARRANTY!?
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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how is the prius not an economy car when they claim high gas mileage... and its half electric and half gas.. what do u consider it then?
How the **** does a $26k MSRP car equate to you as a economy car?!?!

It's a hyrid subcompact... but unless it's like less than $16k it ain't no economy car!
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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How the **** does a $26k MSRP car equate to you as a economy car?!?!

It's a hyrid subcompact... but unless it's like less than $16k it ain't no economy car!
ok.. i see ur point there... i meant as a car itself, without the MSRP...
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by wrxisthebest
as in economy, performance etc...
It's a hybrid sub-compact.

Economy cars are like the Kia Rio, Echo, Yaris, Chevy Aveo... Tiny, small, lack of options, lack of safety...

just cheap, stupid reliable cars.
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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It's a hybrid sub-compact.

Economy cars are like the Kia Rio, Echo, Yaris, Chevy Aveo... Tiny, small, lack of options, lack of safety...

just cheap, stupid reliable cars.
1992 honda civic DX lol
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:09 AM
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man, the Prius is a piece of **** car that does nothing to help us. Its expensive, and that battery only lasts a decade. Tell me, what happens to it after its discharged completely and they have to replace it, OUT OF WARRANTY!?
The better the MPG, which BTW the prius averages 44/40, the better off we are, the lower the gas prices will be and the less oil we need to use or buy from other countries.

So, yeah, the battery situation sucks, but 10 years from now when a prius needs a new battery system, it will be fairly cheap, and better than what went in there. We just need to keep hashing out technology and money to R&D for all this.

Thing is this: bottom line, the best hit to foreign oil or just gas prices is to use less. Simply USE LESS. If people would just DUMP their ****ing SUVs for a minivan, that'd be massive improvement.

I see that trucks will still have their place for their utilities, but if we convert all trucks and cars into some sort of hybrid, even just the simplest electric assist hybrids like the current prius, then we'd be increase millage by a lot. We all have to do our part, every one of us.
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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SUVs yay! dumb asses are now broke drifving those things
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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I cannot stand the Prius for a few reasons - but the most prominent being that when you do replace that Li-Ion battery do you know where it goes?

Gets throw in a dump where it takes ~2,000 years to decompose and leak into the water table.

Oh, and the Prius's life expectancy is about 100,000 miles...something to think about...
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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I cannot stand the Prius for a few reasons - but the most prominent being that when you do replace that Li-Ion battery do you know where it goes?

Gets throw in a dump where it takes ~2,000 years to decompose and leak into the water table.

Oh, and the Prius's life expectancy is about 100,000 miles...something to think about...
Trust me, I'm not ever going to buy one.

But you can't say that Li-Ion batteries are going to be found in dumps. We don't do that now with lead acid, we aren't going to do so with these either. They are too big to dump into the dumpster, we'll have recycling locations for them.

I'm not worried about that so much. I am a believer in Diesel, and gas cars that are fuel efficient. They have them in Europe, and we can have them here too if we can just push for them.

I mean, i'd buy a yaris or fit if it came with a diesel hybrid motor. Or even better the electric cars that have small tiny generators that all they do is an alternator to charge up the batteries. Those get stupid MPG numbers, and have ranges in excess of 600miles on just 8 gallons of gas. If that were a diesel motor, it'd be even higher!
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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yes ford has good cars in europe i posted that way early in this thread deisel is the way to go for now but it wont last forever

MB has the blue air scrubber thing thaty they were letting other companies use

trains have a deisel generator and are driven by electrical motors GE is into those
Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
yes ford has good cars in europe i posted that way early in this thread deisel is the way to go for now but it wont last forever

MB has the BlueTec air scrubber thing thaty they were letting other companies use

trains have a deisel generator and are driven by electrical motors GE is into those
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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