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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
I love you Ray, and I completely agree.

I'm ****ing tired of the stock market. The current corporate structure can ****ing go to hell. I don't give a ****...

The saying "As GM goes, so goes the Nation..." simply does not apply anymore. If they and ford fall, we will still be around and kicking.
Agreed. The stock market is trash. Time to dump it.

And by the look of things, in a few months it will have zeroed itself out.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
The prius is not an economy car.

an echo or a yaris is.
how is the prius not an economy car when they claim high gas mileage... and its half electric and half gas.. what do u consider it then?
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by wrxisthebest
what do u consider it then?
Ugly, overpriced and not as good for the environment as one might think.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 09:50 AM
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Ugly, overpriced and not as good for the environment as one might think.
ok.. agreeed there... i meant as like classified as...
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
Ain't gonna save them... That car will more than likely cost $30k+.

AAW (?) Union is what's killing GM/Ford. It's lazy *** Americans out east who demand months of time off and make $80K with nearly 80% of that as pension when they retire...
Do not forget that even if GM/Ford lay off union people or reach agreement to cut their numbers, they STILL have to pay their salary for next couple years out of some stupid fund set up especially for that purpose, which they have to 100% finance. So, union workers get fired, sit on their *** for 2 years getting their full salary/benefits, and still have their job guaranteed after that period even though I high doubt they did jack **** with that time...Cost cutting? Efficiency? Progressive education of workers? Motivation to improve yourself to have more secure job position? Ummm epic fail on all accounts IMPO

NOTE: Trying to look up the specifics of this, but I know I got the concept right.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by LxJLthr
Do not forget that even if GM/Ford lay off union people or reach agreement to cut their numbers, they STILL have to pay their salary for next couple years out of some stupid fund set up especially for that purpose, which they have to 100% finance. So, union workers get fired, sit on their *** for 2 years getting their full salary/benefits, and still have their job guaranteed after that period even though I high doubt they did jack **** with that time...Cost cutting? Efficiency? Progressive education of workers? Motivation to improve yourself to have more secure job position? Ummm epic fail on all accounts IMPO

NOTE: Trying to look up the specifics of this, but I know I got the concept right.
move the jobs to mexico and close all us plants problem solved
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Originally Posted by wrxisthebest
ok.. agreeed there... i meant as like classified as...
hybrid?
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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hybrid?
as in economy, performance etc...
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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compact like our imprezas? or sub compact?
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compact like our imprezas? or sub compact?
dam, i thought of it as an economy car due to the fact that they claim like 60 mpg..
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:10 AM
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meh the registration tells you what its classed as if you want to really know
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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maybe ill look at my uncles prius...

he traded in his S2000 for one... :thumbdown:
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by wrxisthebest
maybe ill look at my uncles prius...

he traded in his S2000 for one... :thumbdown:
wow he got bamboozled
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
wow he got bamboozled
he likes the prius i guess..

but dam, i would have taken the s2000 off his hands
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