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Old May 8, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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Street racing will always be a problem.
Old May 8, 2005 | 04:27 AM
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i hate california modding laws... aka you cant have mods period.

i wouldnt say street racing is a problem anymore...
sure it was when milpitas was still popping, but those days are long over.
streetracing.org is dead now..

who the hell street races any more? and im not talking about those odd 50 or so cars that like to drive around san jose area doing jack ****.
besides those sideshows in oakland (ill admit thats a big problem), and some few mountain racers here and there, street racing isnt at a large enough scale anymore in the bay area
for these lame laws to be justified IMO...

and for anybody that brings up the smog argument, those plentiful suv's and hummers on the road (that even the gov himself proposed to make street legal) will produce far more smog then our puny 2~2.5 liters ever can...

its just lame police departments meeting thier quotas, so they can balance thier budgets and get PAId ... traffic cops will never get my respect .

p.s. santa clara sheriffs and chp can kiss my ***!
Old May 8, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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okay, yungjin.. keep saying that traffic cops will never get your respect... when you actually need one because of an emergancy and they don't show up... that's called karma

I can't stand ignorants complaining about laws when it's their own myopic view that prevents them from seeing the utility in it... .and I'm not going to bother to explain it. Just remember... just because you can't seem to see beyond the Bay Area, doesn't mean street racing is dead.
Old May 8, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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The problem is, that the police use laws out of context. If you go to court and use your head you can beat ALOT of the tickets we get issued.

On top of that it's complete and under bull crap that guys like us can get popped for having a cat back yet I could run strait exhaust on a truck and nobody would say jack even though I've got HUGE chrome tips spitting out both sides of my truck.

Someone has got to put together a study and file a class action law suit based on discrimination...I'm seriously sick of it. You could be under the db law of 95 pass the sniffer but because it's not a STOCK exhaust we get a ticket.

Trucks are constantly higher than the limit of headlight height and RARELY get nailed but god forbid someone be lower. My last car I actually had a cop bust out a measureing tape and check mine. Then he tried to get me for modified suspension...I told him to go get his book and find the law..he couldn't find a damn thing. ....as said...you just can't have any part of your car lower than your wheel...so you run 45 series tires you can have your car 2 inches off the dang ground.

so many laws that have no reason other to give the officers more reasons to pull someone over and look for whatever they feel like....or just to have more laws.
Old May 8, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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o.k., so nobody has suggested anything else legal or undetectable by normal means, so my next question is what would a re-flashed WRX with a gutted stock up-pipe and an FMIC dyno at the wheels, cos with just the re-flash 180-190WHP is feasible...so how much of a difference will the up-pipe and FMIC make???? lets assume the re-flash and custom tune is done by one of the better local guys (naming no names).
Old May 8, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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I haven't heard of any street racing problems in a few years, but then again, that doesn't mean the farmers in Yuba aren't tearing up sh*t in their tractors and school buses. And we all know that you can't race tractors without a K&N filter and a 6" Motec exhaust system. And that is why they are illegal. Makes sense to me.
Old May 8, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mcowger
Well, you can't lower the car beyond a certain point - I think thats what he means.

I agree with you - as long as your can pass smog and safety checks, who cares. But Calif views these laws as ways to make a little money.

If you avoid doing stupid things and don't drive like a nut, the liklihood is that you want gont hassled.

i dont think it matters how u drive because they will still pull u over just cas they feel like it. i got pulled over and i wasnt even doing anything wrong. alls i did was made a u-turn where it was legal and the cop pulled me over. said my exhaust was modified but it was a blitz nur spec extension only. still got a ticket for it. well thats just my 2 cents
Old May 8, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by shadowcat
okay, yungjin.. keep saying that traffic cops will never get your respect... when you actually need one because of an emergancy and they don't show up... that's called karma

I can't stand ignorants complaining about laws when it's their own myopic view that prevents them from seeing the utility in it... .and I'm not going to bother to explain it. Just remember... just because you can't seem to see beyond the Bay Area, doesn't mean street racing is dead.
lol... whatever.

don't you know that laws may differ from city to city ??
i.e. modding laws in milpitas are stricter from other cities, and santa clara drinking laws are stricter then other cities...
do you believe that the laws are identical in every city in california?, no i dont think so. That's why i pointed out solely bay area. :banana:
And yes I'm from socal as well... lived in cerritos and antelope valley.

If theres an emergency, its okay i rather not be saved by a racist sheriff that FLIPS me and my gf, and tells us "**** you" for doing speed limit, because thier mad that we actually prevented THEM from speeding in thier giant *** white suv... lol.

Who said i don't respect ALL cops? uhm, i never said that. I do respect cops position. I work security and have to work with cops all the time, and am cool with quite a few? I respect cops really depending on thier location... if thier from EPA and oakland, I give them a lot of respect because those areas are really bad. Sheriff's usually hang out in saratoga, gatos etc. aka the rich area's... and do shiet like pull ppl over for stock stereo system, front plates, minor traffic stuff, etc.... even though they supposedly have jurisdiction for the whole bay area?, now you tell me, if they were so GUNGHO about things why would they waste thier time on small things like this?

NOW SIR, tell me what the Utility of it is?
not trying to sound like a *****, sincerely want to hear from your
pov, rather then you bashing me.

- one O' them ignorants John :banana:
Old May 8, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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Gee.. seeing as I have a legal studies degree from Berkeley, and one of my papers was on the utility of traffic penalties on social equity, I could seriously school you on it.. but I won't. Again, you obviously have a bias of some sort. Why is it that I, with my modified headlights, tint, and other stuff, don't get pulled over at all, and I've driven all over the west coast (up to Seattle and down to the LA area, plus a cross country trip from Texas back to the Bay Area)....

Yes, municipalities can have stricter laws than the state, but no municipality can have LESS strict laws than the state mandate.... just like states can have laws that are tighter than federal mandates, but not less strict... again, if you honestly think that street racing not a problem anymore, shall I show you the utility of the search button and show you the news post that recently showed up on this board, about the 2005 WRX that hit a girl on the sidewalk after losing control in a street race with a 350Z (the 350 didn't stop). Oh yeah.. street racing is NO LONGER A PROBLEM ...

Tell you what... show me ONE municipality where some form of street racing goes on (that has a population greater than 25,000 people) in California, where there is no direct correlation with the penalties for modifications.
Old May 8, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Old May 8, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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please people, we're getting off the point. We all love cops, without them people would kill our mums and steal our cars. lets leave it at that.

What I want to know is what a re-flash, FMIC, gutted stock up-pipe, exhaust backbox and custon tune will make at the wheels....A standard WRX with a re-flash will make 180-190 bhp, I'm really interested in what an FMIC will do, cos thats the biggie.

I mean, how much better is an FMIC than the standard WRX I/C.

They do look really cool though.
Old May 8, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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FMICs are not normally warranted unless one upgrades their turbo. If you stick with your stock turbo setup but upgrade to a FMIC, you will just spend money for more lag... If anything go with a JDM STi TMIC for a stock turbo setup.
Old May 8, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AWD 20T
FMICs are not normally warranted unless one upgrades their turbo. If you stick with your stock turbo setup but upgrade to a FMIC, you will just spend money for more lag... If anything go with a JDM STi TMIC for a stock turbo setup.
what about FMInterFoolers with a stock turbo?
Old May 8, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by killaho
what about FMInterFoolers with a stock turbo?
As long as you have the Bose BOV with surround sound under the hood you're good to go.
Old May 8, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by shadowcat
Why is it that I, with my modified headlights, tint, and other stuff, don't get pulled over at all, and I've driven all over the west coast (up to Seattle and down to the LA area, plus a cross country trip from Texas back to the Bay Area)....
You wouldn't happen to be white, would you?



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