The Android OS is fairly stable, too. It is the UI that the manufacturers put on the phone that kind of blow. Motorola Blur is horrible. Such a hog...

 

Not only that, open source development is lightning. Things get developed unbelievably fast. Official Gingerbread was rooted in under 48 hours. That's scary.

 

That's funny.. I can think of at least 5 people with DROID phones and one of them is fully functional. The others have constant weird problems - hardware and software. One has duct tape holding it together. Another friend, for a little while, when he got a VM his phone would reboot. Another has weird glitchy issues that I don't remember. I have not yet once heard of a single software or hardware issue with an iPhone (can think of 5 friends who use iPhones, probably more).

I have used my wife's iPhone for the last 3 months with no calendar or mail issues. Currently synching 3 mail accounts. She hated the iPhone's size, touch screen and the fact that it was not a Nokia flip phone from 1998.

Lots of people. Our population (nearly 500) just crossed the half-way point with more iProducts than Berries or Win Mobile, DROID/Activesynch or whatever it's called.

Who the **** cares about having 2 exchange servers of one's own or using a phone as a computer? I want a reliable device that never fails me EVER EVER. The web browser and music functionality is just a bonus. I have been a Berry user for 6 years now and swore by the email differentiation saying I couldn't use another platform due to being on call and such. After MONTHS of serious frustration with the combination of a new Blackberry 9700 BOLD purchase and AT&T's support, I tossed the Berry in a drawer and tried out my wife's old iPhone 3G that was sitting on a shelf. Part of that was because I could not go 3-4 minutes without dropping a call on the new Berry and I wanted to see if it was the service or the phone. I have no complaints now that I have switched over to the iPhone and actually like it a lot. I planned to use it for a week and go back to the Berry to pursue the multitude of issues I experience with it (weird ****, reboots, opens programs while on stanby and locked in a holster, locks up constantly, drops calls, etc).

Thing is, I went into an AT&T store again and asked about getting an iPhone 4 - and nope. I can only pay full price since I used my upgrade on my POS Berry that I was not able to get help with and still own. So basically I used my one chance on the Berry, and now I am locked into it until some time in 2012. We can't use my wife's line since she "upgraded" to a $29 Nokia flip phone back in June. If I was not a "loyal AT&T customer" since 2005, I could get one for $199. I never had my own phone contract - always had work phones - until 2005 - and this sucks.

If the iPhone 4 shows up under Verizon, and I can use it in Europe as well, I will be getting one, just on general principle - and I think there are a lot of AT&T subscribers that are in the same boat, even those that are up for an upgrade.

 

Droid 2, Droid X, Nexus S, Evo4G, Incredible, all the Samsung phones, list goes... on...

And I got Flash on my phone, too.

Let me know when your phone bricks and you can't retrieve your contacts...

If my phone bricks, I go get a new phone. Put the old SD card into my new phone, activate the new phone, turn-on wireless, login to my Google account, watch all my contacts and settings restored, and watch all my apps redownload and install... and that's if I don't use Nandroid back-up.

 

Just ordered my Evo 4G for Sprint...$120 shipped, and I can sell my Hero for $120 = FREE PHONE. Oh and about that "4G" fee....one call to Sprint and I dropped 20% off my bill.

I've NEVER enjoyed dealing with AT&T with our corporate devices. Luckily we use Verizon for 90% of our couple hundred mobile users. Will we be picking up the iPhone on VZW as a business? Hell to the naw, Blackberry is still the Enterprise standard. I personally don't care for BB's , but I don't see the iPhone usurping it for business users.

 

Having had to support every OS and phone out there (its a IT thing I do it for a living.) i can tell you..

1)Iphone build quality is crap, screen thickness us sub par, bodies crack in a fall much easier than the HTC series or Motorola seies phones
2)as of right now, the most insecure phone OS out is iOS. In a recent black hat the iphone was hacked and made to give up its numbers and passwords in under 30 seconds, from a remote connection. (scarry thing is, the windows OS was, and is still unhacked by remote)

When you break it down to just the phone, ignoreing that pile of **** AT&T service. The phones just don't stack up aganst each other, the iphone is just a toy, a cute little plastic toy, where as looking to the android phones they are (for the most part not all of them) built much more robust.

 

What the hell did your friend do to require duct tape to hold it together? I've dropped my phone so many times, including a time I tried to catch it, missed and ended up smacking it so it was the same force as throwing my phone into the concrete sidewalk. Yes, the case blew up, battery flew a few feet, but the phone holds together perfectly, with no problems.

The thing about Droid phones, that non-droid phone users don't know/truly understand, is the ease to root and ROM the phone, which eliminates almost all software bugs due to the open source ability of Droid and it constantly being tweaked if there is a bug in the code. Not to mention the RUU capabilities, which basically make the phone unbrickable.

And if you haven't heard of any software or hardware issues with the iPhone, you must have forgotten why they come with free bumpers...

 

I hope that when the masses of people start migrating over to verizon when they get the iPhone, my signal gets better. I could be completely wrong but I'd assume with less people using network resources, att's service can only get better, but then again, I don't have too many problems with att's signal (luckily) anyways.

 

this is a battle. only good droid phone is the evo 4g from sprint. everything else sucks. the touch screeens are the biggest pieces of garbage ive ever seen

 

 

For anyone thinking of getting a android phone wait until CES to even look at them.. HTC, among others, have phones coming out that DESTROY every android phone on the market. It will be well worth the wait.

Now is the worst time to buy.

 

I just got my Droid Pro on Thurs and really like it so far. I dont know enough about it yet and im going to keep learning about all the features that i can do and is capable of doing. Before I bought it I was in the Verizon store for close to 45mins just asking the sales dude questions about the phone. Making sure it did what i wanted, what it could/couldnt do compared to other android phones they have as well.

My last phone was a BB Tour and I actually really like it (and it was my first BB). The ONLY thing I didnt really care for on it was the internet, oh well.

Before that I had the LG Voyager, LG EnV, LG V, and then some crappy flip phone that came standard when I got my number. So ive had 6 different phones in 6 or 7 years. Ive only had to get a new one (LG Voyager) because I dropped it too many times and I got it wet, and all that was my fault.

 

It's obvious you're an anti-Mac person, who has never owned an iPhone, or experienced its build quality. You know me, you know that I'm not a small guy - and while riding my bike (metric century), I lost forward momentum and landed on my back - RIGHT ON the iPhone, and it's not got a scratch on it from that encounter with the gravel surface. I've dropped it a few times, without any issues whatsoever. I can promise you that the HTC and Motorola phones don't have that kind of build quality - under the same circumstances, they'd most likely be crushed under my fat a** weight, and I'd be buying a new one.

Perhaps if you spent time with one (I've had mine for nearly 2 1/2 years) you'd find out that unless you run it over with your car, it's not a bad phone.

Speak of things you know about - and the build quality of the iPhone is not one of those things. I'm not interested in your comebacks from PC World magazine reviews, etc. - nothing beats personal experience, of which you have none.

 

As I write this on my iPhone I'm looking into putting honeycomb on my AT&T tilt(kaiser) it's a bit more scary than just putting on a cooked winmo rom. Currently using a dutty build. Anybody flashed an android rom to a kaiser before?

 

For the record I've successfully deployed managed iOS devices to my corporate network with minimal issues.