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Oh and traction control? You can turn that off with the push of a button on the R35... and I personally would rather have the option to keep it on when your car is pushing over 600whp 
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Have any of you guys driven an R35 or any other car with a REAL "flappy paddle" trans? How about a sequential trans where you don't have to use the clutch to shift?
Maybe I'm getting old, but I personally prefer it to the traditional clutch setup. You get to keep your hands on the wheel which gives you MORE control. Gear changes are seamless which keep the power and chassis loading more consistent, which again, gives you MORE control.
I imagine most people who make these statements have only driven AT cars with "sport shift" options. You really can't compare this to a true electronically controlled clutch trans.
-- Ed
Maybe I'm getting old, but I personally prefer it to the traditional clutch setup. You get to keep your hands on the wheel which gives you MORE control. Gear changes are seamless which keep the power and chassis loading more consistent, which again, gives you MORE control.
I imagine most people who make these statements have only driven AT cars with "sport shift" options. You really can't compare this to a true electronically controlled clutch trans.
-- Ed
Now 600whp isn't something I;d be looking at more closer to the 300-330 range. So it wouldn't apply to me, but when I did drive a GT500 I wanted it on.
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GTR pushing 600 would require a little more money but I guess if you bought it then you do have the money.
I enjoy clutch manual, takes more attention and if you don't want to have a sporty car then don't buy one.. haha.
Side note, GTR is one of the few "super" cars I would own.
I enjoy clutch manual, takes more attention and if you don't want to have a sporty car then don't buy one.. haha.
Side note, GTR is one of the few "super" cars I would own.
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I know I'm extremely biased on this subject but it gives a chance for drivers to not have skill to match shifts, do it at the right point, clutch kick when understeering, etc etc. Just makes a lazier driver for the street car, not F1 is a different story.
Now 600whp isn't something I;d be looking at more closer to the 300-330 range. So it wouldn't apply to me, but when I did drive a GT500 I wanted it on.
Now 600whp isn't something I;d be looking at more closer to the 300-330 range. So it wouldn't apply to me, but when I did drive a GT500 I wanted it on.
But there's a reason most major motorsports are going with sequential and clutchless transmissions. Its simply faster around the track and allows the driver to have more control of the car. Hell even WRC is mostly clutchless and those guys are sideways most of the time
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I understand what you're saying, and for certain motorsports a clutch can be useful (think drifting). For anything else, you shouldn't need to clutch kick your way out of an understeer situation and you can accomplish the same thing with some left foot braking.
But there's a reason most major motorsports are going with sequential and clutchless transmissions. Its simply faster around the track and allows the driver to have more control of the car. Hell even WRC is mostly clutchless and those guys are sideways most of the time.
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But there's a reason most major motorsports are going with sequential and clutchless transmissions. Its simply faster around the track and allows the driver to have more control of the car. Hell even WRC is mostly clutchless and those guys are sideways most of the time
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Have any of you guys driven an R35 or any other car with a REAL "flappy paddle" trans? How about a sequential trans where you don't have to use the clutch to shift?
Maybe I'm getting old, but I personally prefer it to the traditional clutch setup. You get to keep your hands on the wheel which gives you MORE control. Gear changes are seamless which keep the power and chassis loading more consistent, which again, gives you MORE control.
I imagine most people who make these statements have only driven AT cars with "sport shift" options. You really can't compare this to a true electronically controlled clutch trans.
-- Ed
Maybe I'm getting old, but I personally prefer it to the traditional clutch setup. You get to keep your hands on the wheel which gives you MORE control. Gear changes are seamless which keep the power and chassis loading more consistent, which again, gives you MORE control.
I imagine most people who make these statements have only driven AT cars with "sport shift" options. You really can't compare this to a true electronically controlled clutch trans.
-- Ed
I know the clutch less sequential shifters are faster, more practical, easier, ect. Ect... But I still love the feeling of the clutch and shifting through the gears. I'm not gonna be racing (anytime soon at least haha) where the time saved would be worth it. I love driving stick so I'll stick with it everyone has their own preferences and that's mine
everyone has their own preferences and that's mine
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the only problem I see with having a car that is stick.. is when I go out with friends and decide to have a few drinks, nobody else can drive my car because they are losers and dont know how.. thats why I like the paddle shifter idea haha. Maybe I just need to hang around people that can drive stick..
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I know the clutch less sequential shifters are faster, more practical, easier, ect. Ect... But I still love the feeling of the clutch and shifting through the gears. I'm not gonna be racing (anytime soon at least haha) where the time saved would be worth it. I love driving stick so I'll stick with it everyone has their own preferences and that's mine
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Hahah I'm a I'll too young for drinks, but I like the fact my friends can't just jump in my car and drive it! It's a good excuse for when they ask to drive. Ha but that is a downside of it
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Maybe my wording was incorrect on the statement. I don't think anyone is any less of a driver or your car is less sporty. Just not my choice and I don't feel there's as much driver input as in a manual transmission with a clutch.
Completely true. I much prefer stick, and fervently hope that there is always at least an option of it on an sti, but it is every different person's own preference on what they like best
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yeah.. I get that a lot too.. lemme drive your car!.. countless attempts at stealing my keys and then coming in and saying they cant start the car.. and I grab my keys and say use the clutch dumb***. lol