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experienced rally-x drivers please read
hey i want to get into rally-x
i am not into drag and auto-x so much.. i figure i bought a rallycar not a mustang so..
my first question is what kind of suspension do you suggest? i was thinking KYB AGX struts with some kind of springs but i am not sure what kind.
also are there any coilovers you like for rallyx?
if you make suggestions assume i have 1500-2000 dollar budget for this.
i was looking at DMS, but want some other options if possible.
Mike of Gruppe-s i wanna hear your opinions too!!
i am not into drag and auto-x so much.. i figure i bought a rallycar not a mustang so..
my first question is what kind of suspension do you suggest? i was thinking KYB AGX struts with some kind of springs but i am not sure what kind.
also are there any coilovers you like for rallyx?
if you make suggestions assume i have 1500-2000 dollar budget for this.
i was looking at DMS, but want some other options if possible.
Mike of Gruppe-s i wanna hear your opinions too!!
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I'm not necessarily experienced in rally-x, but having done one, I have a few suggestions.
1. Try the rally-x STOCK. - Mods bump you up in class with the big boys, so you're not going to be making the kind of times they do when you first start out.
2. Hang out, take advice from those who have modded, and see what they suggest. The best way to get good advice about rally-x is to ask those doing it, and benefitting from their experience.
1. Try the rally-x STOCK. - Mods bump you up in class with the big boys, so you're not going to be making the kind of times they do when you first start out.
2. Hang out, take advice from those who have modded, and see what they suggest. The best way to get good advice about rally-x is to ask those doing it, and benefitting from their experience.
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These guys might be able to give you some good info and parts
http://www.writerguy.com/primitive/index.htm
http://www.writerguy.com/primitive/index.htm
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I would go stock, or with very few mods. I think tires are one of the few things you can change and stay in a stock class.
Watch out for Ed from EQ, and Joel Rodstien. They whip ponies at the rally-x events.
Watch out for Ed from EQ, and Joel Rodstien. They whip ponies at the rally-x events.
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awesome thanks for the advice guys.
and Greg my thing is not really to beat other people entering, i don't have the money to spend thousands upon thousands on my car, i just wanna go out have a good time, and race my own time. maybe after a couple years build up enough to actually compete against others.
and Matt i figured tires would be a good thing too, as you cant really break through to solid ground with flat tires and some tread. i found some for 60 bucks a pop on tire rack. probably not the best but atleast its better than wearing out/slipping on my toyo proxes 4's
and Greg my thing is not really to beat other people entering, i don't have the money to spend thousands upon thousands on my car, i just wanna go out have a good time, and race my own time. maybe after a couple years build up enough to actually compete against others.
and Matt i figured tires would be a good thing too, as you cant really break through to solid ground with flat tires and some tread. i found some for 60 bucks a pop on tire rack. probably not the best but atleast its better than wearing out/slipping on my toyo proxes 4's
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I would highly recommend trying it with your stock suspension first. The stock WRX suspension does great out there... remember dirt driving is all about weight transfer and pitching the car which is really aided by some decent suspension travel. If you want something a bit stiffer, the AGX's are a good choice but make sure to stay with a relatively tall spring.
As others have said, tires are deffinately something to focus on. I actually found that RE-92's do surprisingly well out there at ~40psi. Just stay with something cheap for now and if you really get into it, get yourself a set of good, cheap rally tires.
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As others have said, tires are deffinately something to focus on. I actually found that RE-92's do surprisingly well out there at ~40psi. Just stay with something cheap for now and if you really get into it, get yourself a set of good, cheap rally tires.
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awesome thanks Ed,
yeah i am gonna stay stock for now, i have a catless uppipe/turboback and will have tuning soon.
but i figure out there in rallyx the driving aspect is more important than your power until you gain good dirt driving skills.
i am just looking to see what kind of suspension i may consider after i do a few rallys and see how it feels out there.
do swaybars and endlinks have an affect out there?
yeah i am gonna stay stock for now, i have a catless uppipe/turboback and will have tuning soon.
but i figure out there in rallyx the driving aspect is more important than your power until you gain good dirt driving skills.
i am just looking to see what kind of suspension i may consider after i do a few rallys and see how it feels out there.
do swaybars and endlinks have an affect out there?
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Originally Posted by evsoul
awesome thanks for the advice guys.
and Greg my thing is not really to beat other people entering, i don't have the money to spend thousands upon thousands on my car, i just wanna go out have a good time, and race my own time. maybe after a couple years build up enough to actually compete against others.
and Greg my thing is not really to beat other people entering, i don't have the money to spend thousands upon thousands on my car, i just wanna go out have a good time, and race my own time. maybe after a couple years build up enough to actually compete against others.
I guess you misunderstood. I'm not necessarily talking about competing with the other people right off, I was more suggesting that with your "mod budget" you listed, that you consider simply trying it out first. I would just hate to see you waste your money on a bunch of mods before you find out if you like the events, etc. first, and then deciding if you want to mod your car to match.
As far as beating people, I simply felt good that my times improved by 4 seconds from the first to last run, I improved my line, and that my times were consistent with the field. It did more good for me to see it videotaped, and see what happened, and where I could improve. Well worth the experience.
Too bad it cost me a hub/bearing in the process. The next piece of advice is obvious...but not obvious enough for me to heed it: Check the torque on your lugnuts!!
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Originally Posted by Roo
I guess you misunderstood. I'm not necessarily talking about competing with the other people right off, I was more suggesting that with your "mod budget" you listed, that you consider simply trying it out first. I would just hate to see you waste your money on a bunch of mods before you find out if you like the events, etc. first, and then deciding if you want to mod your car to match.
As far as beating people, I simply felt good that my times improved by 4 seconds from the first to last run, I improved my line, and that my times were consistent with the field. It did more good for me to see it videotaped, and see what happened, and where I could improve. Well worth the experience.
Too bad it cost me a hub/bearing in the process. The next piece of advice is obvious...but not obvious enough for me to heed it: Check the torque on your lugnuts!!
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ya no i understood. and im gonna hit it up stock suspension first. see how it feels.
and i will be sure to check my torque specs on my lugs haha.
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Sway bars could actually hurt your dirt performance. I've run my car with whiteline rear sway set to the lowest setting and it was ok, but I deffinately wouldn't run a front sway or a stiff rear. The idea is that you want each corner to be working as independantly as possible over the bigger bumps and ruts in order to keep as much rubber on the ground as possible. You also want to be able to use the body roll of the car to shift the weight and pitch it to get some angle.
BTW, while overall power is not a big factor out there, response is a huge one and tuning will certainly help a lot with that.
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BTW, while overall power is not a big factor out there, response is a huge one and tuning will certainly help a lot with that.
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yeah, i got the turboback and uppipe and i am gonna do tuning just to make sure my motor is working well with it.
i figure non-traction is an issue out there so more power is not really gonna be a good thing compared to actual driver skill.
i figure non-traction is an issue out there so more power is not really gonna be a good thing compared to actual driver skill.
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I am not too sure if I am qualified to give advise given I have never driven a Rally X before but what I would do prior to getting into it if I were using a car I aimed to drive on the street is,
Make sure all my wheel beerings are ok.
Add some form of mud flaps
Buy a set of used rally rims and tires (try http://www.rallyclassified.com/ and http://www.specialstage.com/classifieds/ )
Perhaps attend an event and sit in on someone that is fast and see what they are doing and where they are doing it (also why they are doing it).
As far as modifying your car, I would make sure you have the typical free flowing additions (turboback, Uppipe etc) and a decent tune taking into account the intended use of the car (racing, hot as hell conditions etc etc) Suspension as mentioned I would probably run with the stock stuff until you feel you need something better at which time I would look for something with plenty of travel and adjustment say Tein HG's or KW's.
Hope this helps some.
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Make sure all my wheel beerings are ok.
Add some form of mud flaps
Buy a set of used rally rims and tires (try http://www.rallyclassified.com/ and http://www.specialstage.com/classifieds/ )
Perhaps attend an event and sit in on someone that is fast and see what they are doing and where they are doing it (also why they are doing it).
As far as modifying your car, I would make sure you have the typical free flowing additions (turboback, Uppipe etc) and a decent tune taking into account the intended use of the car (racing, hot as hell conditions etc etc) Suspension as mentioned I would probably run with the stock stuff until you feel you need something better at which time I would look for something with plenty of travel and adjustment say Tein HG's or KW's.
Hope this helps some.
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thanks mike, that defenitely helps.
i was gonna use my stock wheels for this, and pick up some basic rally tires.
so on my list then is stock wheels+rally tires & mudflaps
i will stick with that until i feel like i need more.
thanks guys.
i was gonna use my stock wheels for this, and pick up some basic rally tires.
so on my list then is stock wheels+rally tires & mudflaps
i will stick with that until i feel like i need more.
thanks guys.