Dear customers - Drop Dead! Love, ATT
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what I find really funny is, most DSL is obsolete, its being phased out slowly because of cable/fiber/wireless.
The other "funny" thing is the fact that DSL by its nature is limited in bandwith in the first place. Its absulute bull**** that AT&T is claiming "some users are using up our badnwith" no...that NOT how DSL works, sorry.
The other "funny" thing is the fact that DSL by its nature is limited in bandwith in the first place. Its absulute bull**** that AT&T is claiming "some users are using up our badnwith" no...that NOT how DSL works, sorry.
Also - DSL isn't going anywhere.. The amount of copper infrastructure in place dictates that.. For most customers - fiber is just being used to extend CO's for better DSL coverage..
Edit: and you cant use a technology as old as dsl to claim it will be their death (cable).. Wireless will always be limited by its nature.. And AT&T has marketed Uverse as being fiber driven - but that is only to the CO.. Still DSL to your house.
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Actually you're wrong.. While you as an individual subscriber are not sharing bandwidth directly with your neighbors - you are occupying some amount of bandwidth on AT&T's network.. Connections are sized based off of forecasted load.. If you think AT&T or ANY DSL provider maintains enough idle connection for 100% of their users to pull 100% of their max allotted bandwidth you fail at economics.. CO's don't have unlimited speed connections to the network.. Just sized up high enough that you probably wont see slow downs as you do on cable during fap hours as the data/subscribers are more centralized/dense therefore higher speed lines are used that statistically have a higher chance of having some amount of bandwidth left..
Also - DSL isn't going anywhere.. The amount of copper infrastructure in place dictates that.. For most customers - fiber is just being used to extend CO's for better DSL coverage..
Edit: and you cant use a technology as old as dsl to claim it will be their death (cable).. Wireless will always be limited by its nature.. And AT&T has marketed Uverse as being fiber driven - but that is only to the CO.. Still DSL to your house.
Also - DSL isn't going anywhere.. The amount of copper infrastructure in place dictates that.. For most customers - fiber is just being used to extend CO's for better DSL coverage..
Edit: and you cant use a technology as old as dsl to claim it will be their death (cable).. Wireless will always be limited by its nature.. And AT&T has marketed Uverse as being fiber driven - but that is only to the CO.. Still DSL to your house.
with DSL, you are just robbing everyone, not just your next door neighbor.
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Actually you're wrong.. While you as an individual subscriber are not sharing bandwidth directly with your neighbors - you are occupying some amount of bandwidth on AT&T's network.. Connections are sized based off of forecasted load.. If you think AT&T or ANY DSL provider maintains enough idle connection for 100% of their users to pull 100% of their max allotted bandwidth you fail at economics.. CO's don't have unlimited speed connections to the network.. Just sized up high enough that you probably wont see slow downs as you do on cable during fap hours as the data/subscribers are more centralized/dense therefore higher speed lines are used that statistically have a higher chance of having some amount of bandwidth left..
Also - DSL isn't going anywhere.. The amount of copper infrastructure in place dictates that.. For most customers - fiber is just being used to extend CO's for better DSL coverage..
Edit: and you cant use a technology as old as dsl to claim it will be their death (cable).. Wireless will always be limited by its nature.. And AT&T has marketed Uverse as being fiber driven - but that is only to the CO.. Still DSL to your house.
Also - DSL isn't going anywhere.. The amount of copper infrastructure in place dictates that.. For most customers - fiber is just being used to extend CO's for better DSL coverage..
Edit: and you cant use a technology as old as dsl to claim it will be their death (cable).. Wireless will always be limited by its nature.. And AT&T has marketed Uverse as being fiber driven - but that is only to the CO.. Still DSL to your house.
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Also - for reference.. a 250 gp "cap" is about 156 hours of Netflix's highest quality HD streaming. roughly 40 hours a week of HD..
And it's only an additional $10 for 50gb..
I live on netflix and piracy.. I've only rubbed the cap a couple times on comcast.. It's not that big of a deal.. - And it DOES come down to economics as the highest couple percent of users do consume a majority of the bandwidth / require providers to purchase more bandwidth to keep the user experience up.
And it's only an additional $10 for 50gb..
I live on netflix and piracy.. I've only rubbed the cap a couple times on comcast.. It's not that big of a deal.. - And it DOES come down to economics as the highest couple percent of users do consume a majority of the bandwidth / require providers to purchase more bandwidth to keep the user experience up.
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This is false. No one has 100% fiber optic to the house anywhere in the Bay Area. It's fiber to the curb and copper to the house. Look at your MPOE and see if you have a fiber optic receiver installed.
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Whether you know it or not, AT&T has had a 'fiber to the curb' project in place since the early 90's. the big bandwidth eaters are up to the next level of DSLAM equipment. Granted not EVERY house is wired to the curb, using LightSpeed ADSL equipment and some other new ones, its closer then you think...
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Wow, AT&T likes that 2% stat for how many customers will be impacted, somehow that was how many customers used too much cellular data as well.
Really AT&T, you don't make enough money from the other 98% of your customers to balance out with that remaining 2%?
Really AT&T, you don't make enough money from the other 98% of your customers to balance out with that remaining 2%?
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I might be done with AT&T - I'm paying for 12mbs and last night did a speed test at barely 3...
It's been acting goofy for awhile.
anyone using
http://www.sonic.net/solutions/home/ ??
It's been acting goofy for awhile.
anyone using
http://www.sonic.net/solutions/home/ ??
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I might be done with AT&T - I'm paying for 12mbs and last night did a speed test at barely 3...
It's been acting goofy for awhile.
anyone using
http://www.sonic.net/solutions/home/ ??
It's been acting goofy for awhile.
anyone using
http://www.sonic.net/solutions/home/ ??
you will immediately switch off of ATT.