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Is that if the shop does the build AND the tune that they should warranty it? And the weekly quality check of E85? And the check they are appropriatly servicing a highly strung boxer running big boost??
Lets be real, any engine builder that rebuilds Subaru blocks free of charge every time a customer has a failure is going out of business immediately, because there are lots of ways a customer can grenade a nicely built engine through no fault of the builder
Lets be real, any engine builder that rebuilds Subaru blocks free of charge every time a customer has a failure is going out of business immediately, because there are lots of ways a customer can grenade a nicely built engine through no fault of the builder
The shop that fixed their engine (rather, completely replaced) said it was one of the worst quality builds they'd ever seen. Almost everything touched was done wrong. The valve lash being off was what killed the engine. Cobb partially rebuilt both heads.
And I will tell you now, that most of my Subaru engine failures (I'm on #7 or 8 now) are due to shoddy worksmanship, not due to me. I've had 3 engines alone fail with under 1,500 miles on them. My last engine is the only one ever warrantied. I had a rod knock at 500 miles.
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You've had 8 motors self destruct and you're blaming the shops...
I'm not trying to be dick... but I see the common factor in all of these failures
With all the insane crap I've owned and worked on over the years... I've only seen a handful of motors blow up that were the fault of the engine builder.
I'm not trying to be dick... but I see the common factor in all of these failures
With all the insane crap I've owned and worked on over the years... I've only seen a handful of motors blow up that were the fault of the engine builder.
Oil pump seized (~50k miles), threw a rod the 1st time I floored it (1,200 miles), personal Spy Hunter smoke screen courtesy of Clark Tuner (17k mile old engine didn't last a full tank of gas after the tune), heads incorrectly assembled (dead engine in 1,200 miles), valve lash (10k miles), rod knock at 500 miles.
Go ahead and try to pin it on me.
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How is it misleading? You consider setting the valve lash wrong, using entirely too much piston clearance (always ran very loud), and torquing nothing properly acceptable work? The only culpability I carry is picking the wrong shops.Similar question proposed to you: Throwing a rod thru the top of the block is normal the 1st time you got WoT on a newly broken in motor?
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After reading your sob story (In my thread no less) I have to say if I was a engine builder, I would tell you to FO if you came in for a new motor. You sound like a nightmare of a customer who can't keep his crap in line, abuses cars, and pretty much have no clue about mechanical care/upkeep.
Personal responsibility kid, try some.



