CHP emission check point.
11-06-2012, 02:22 PM
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it caused so much traffic when i headed to work this morning. They were only pulling the really old cars over though
11-06-2012, 04:42 PM
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I was reading up on these today and it seems like this is more of a way to find crack smog shops and an excuse to pry into vehicle owners to see if they are violating any other law or vehicle code.
There was a report that was published on the effectiveness of these roadside stops and it seems like a good portion of it was directed at finding cars that recently passed smog (within the last year) and now are failing a roadside test. Leading them to a list of smog shops in the area that might be prone to passing a vehicle that fails a roadside test. It also noted that like 47% of the cars that failed a roadside emissions test, failed their first attempt at the last smog that they eventually passed.
This was also a good find:
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...8_10_2010l.pdf
Notice the last paragraph states that it is voluntary. It also clearly states that if your vehicle is found to be a gross polluter... that there will be NO ADDITIONAL REPAIR REQUIREMENTS. You will receive a report and be sent on your way.
So it seems like this voluntary test is not only trying to keep tabs on smog shops and cars that have a tenancy to be a gross polluter... but it is also just an opportunity to issue you a ticket for everything besides being a gross polluter.
If the CHP or city cops are going to have to spend their time and resources to enforce these stations with C.A.R.B... they are probably instructed to make good use of their time there and write as many fix it tickets as possible.
There was a report that was published on the effectiveness of these roadside stops and it seems like a good portion of it was directed at finding cars that recently passed smog (within the last year) and now are failing a roadside test. Leading them to a list of smog shops in the area that might be prone to passing a vehicle that fails a roadside test. It also noted that like 47% of the cars that failed a roadside emissions test, failed their first attempt at the last smog that they eventually passed.
This was also a good find:
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...8_10_2010l.pdf
Notice the last paragraph states that it is voluntary. It also clearly states that if your vehicle is found to be a gross polluter... that there will be NO ADDITIONAL REPAIR REQUIREMENTS. You will receive a report and be sent on your way.
So it seems like this voluntary test is not only trying to keep tabs on smog shops and cars that have a tenancy to be a gross polluter... but it is also just an opportunity to issue you a ticket for everything besides being a gross polluter.
If the CHP or city cops are going to have to spend their time and resources to enforce these stations with C.A.R.B... they are probably instructed to make good use of their time there and write as many fix it tickets as possible.
11-06-2012, 05:53 PM
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I was reading up on these today and it seems like this is more of a way to find crack smog shops and an excuse to pry into vehicle owners to see if they are violating any other law or vehicle code.
There was a report that was published on the effectiveness of these roadside stops and it seems like a good portion of it was directed at finding cars that recently passed smog (within the last year) and now are failing a roadside test. Leading them to a list of smog shops in the area that might be prone to passing a vehicle that fails a roadside test. It also noted that like 47% of the cars that failed a roadside emissions test, failed their first attempt at the last smog that they eventually passed.
This was also a good find:
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...8_10_2010l.pdf
Notice the last paragraph states that it is voluntary. It also clearly states that if your vehicle is found to be a gross polluter... that there will be NO ADDITIONAL REPAIR REQUIREMENTS. You will receive a report and be sent on your way.
So it seems like this voluntary test is not only trying to keep tabs on smog shops and cars that have a tenancy to be a gross polluter... but it is also just an opportunity to issue you a ticket for everything besides being a gross polluter.
If the CHP or city cops are going to have to spend their time and resources to enforce these stations with C.A.R.B... they are probably instructed to make good use of their time there and write as many fix it tickets as possible.
There was a report that was published on the effectiveness of these roadside stops and it seems like a good portion of it was directed at finding cars that recently passed smog (within the last year) and now are failing a roadside test. Leading them to a list of smog shops in the area that might be prone to passing a vehicle that fails a roadside test. It also noted that like 47% of the cars that failed a roadside emissions test, failed their first attempt at the last smog that they eventually passed.
This was also a good find:
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...8_10_2010l.pdf
Notice the last paragraph states that it is voluntary. It also clearly states that if your vehicle is found to be a gross polluter... that there will be NO ADDITIONAL REPAIR REQUIREMENTS. You will receive a report and be sent on your way.
So it seems like this voluntary test is not only trying to keep tabs on smog shops and cars that have a tenancy to be a gross polluter... but it is also just an opportunity to issue you a ticket for everything besides being a gross polluter.
If the CHP or city cops are going to have to spend their time and resources to enforce these stations with C.A.R.B... they are probably instructed to make good use of their time there and write as many fix it tickets as possible.
Bottom line is, best to just stay clear of them if you can.