Change in state ref regulations regarding swaps?

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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 01:34 AM
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they are closed again
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RandomCasualty
When a car passes, the state ref issues your car a "new" VIN sticker that goes on the door jam with the information of what year the motor is and what not.

Something like this:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...xu/mail-12.jpg


Also, I'm pretty sure the ref stations aren't closed. Didn't someone here go to the livermore ref station recently to get his RS with an 07 STi swap BAR'd?
That was me, and it's a wrx not an sti. They're absolutely still open, although I'm not sure of the frequency it may have changed.

I got dinged there for not having an airpump, but it's an easy fix to put one in I just have to find space to fit one. Me == a dingleberry for forgetting that

If you're worried about issue with your displacement going from 2.5 to 2.0 or any other hate, I suggest compiling an argument (on paper) that the engine swap is complete and emissions legal for the engine model year with good backup information.

The BAR can be brutally rigid or very flexible, if given reason to be. If you need any help with the swap let me know.
Old Apr 20, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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I thought someone just said in another thread that they were open and doing business on Tuesdays & Thursdays? Seemed like there was one at Evergreen college and somewhere else, but the one in Alameda is supposed to be pretty friendly.
Old Apr 20, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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That was me, and it's a wrx not an sti. They're absolutely still open, although I'm not sure of the frequency it may have changed.

I got dinged there for not having an airpump, but it's an easy fix to put one in I just have to find space to fit one. Me == a dingleberry for forgetting that

If you're worried about issue with your displacement going from 2.5 to 2.0 or any other hate, I suggest compiling an argument (on paper) that the engine swap is complete and emissions legal for the engine model year with good backup information.

The BAR can be brutally rigid or very flexible, if given reason to be. If you need any help with the swap let me know.
Oh, sorry for the mix-up. Since you got dinged for the airpump, did you still get the BAR sticker or do you have to set up another appointment with the station?

Edit: Nevermind. I did a search and I guess the 06 and 07 wrxs had air pumps. I thought the only subaru that had an air pump was the 08 STIs.

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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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yeah, it's for the best I have been meaning to put the '07 security system in and wiring cruise control, and now I'm pro at getting the heater core in and out.

Prolly be a month before I brave the ref again.
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RandomCasualty
Hello BAIC, as I'm nearing completion on my swap (99 2.5RS -->2.0 WRX motor) I get a text message from my friend today that says: "Apparently you can only have direct replacement engines..." and "some people got rejected with their swaps this week. You might wanna look into it."

So I went on www.bar.ca.gov but didn't find any updates to their engine change policy/rules. Does anyone have any info on this? I'm really starting to worry since I already merged the harnesses together.
I think I found what ur looking for.http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/replace.htm check it out.
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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here's a quick question... i'm doing a swap on my 86 Mr2 (engine from an 88 Celica GTS). does it cost anything to purposely take it to the ref to have it inspected and legalized?
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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Far as I know current laws are that it has to be same year or newer. That's it.
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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well, i guess my core question is:
does it cost anything to bring my car to the ref to have it inspected and legalized with my swap?
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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well, i guess my core question is:
does it cost anything to bring my car to the ref to have it inspected and legalized with my swap?
yes.
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:55 AM
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ok................................................ ...... how much?
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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$8.25

And you only have to pay that if you pass inspection. Otherwise it's no charge and wasted time.

To add to the update, apparently it's a visual only inspection; there will not be a smog check needed. Having been to the ref two times already, trust me on this; I'm on a first name basis with the ref.
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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perfect!!!

i've had the engine fully rebuilt by a machinist. that engine is tighter spec'd than when it came off the factory floor back in 1988. what i've heard, is that they go super in depth and do everything possible to check the engine, short of ripping it apart...

is this info i've been given false?
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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completely and utterly falso.

the ref has alldata, the usual mitchell books and a code scanner at his disposal, as well as lots of working knowledge.

what they don't have is time to waste, factory service manuals, or xray vision.
CA schedules their day helluve tight so if there's no glaring problems or ommisions you're good.

Otherwise you'll end up like me and have to return multiple times to get the o.k.

As to the actual depth of inspection, I'm going to say checking relay functionality is as far they'll go.

Goodluck with the swap, but you should've gone twincharged MR6!!
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Originally Posted by knock
completely and utterly falso.

the ref has alldata, the usual mitchell books and a code scanner at his disposal, as well as lots of working knowledge.

what they don't have is time to waste, factory service manuals, or xray vision.
CA schedules their day helluve tight so if there's no glaring problems or ommisions you're good.

Otherwise you'll end up like me and have to return multiple times to get the o.k.

As to the actual depth of inspection, I'm going to say checking relay functionality is as far they'll go.

Goodluck with the swap, but you should've gone twincharged MR6!!
They checked timing on mine as well. To make sure it was retarded or advanced. Things like adjustable cam gears are illegal so if you have them set them to zero and make sure they're covered.

Fuel rails and fuel pressure regulators are also iffy.

technically anything that gives you more fuel and can change timing is illegal... even cams. But like the man said... they don't have xray vision.



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