Change in state ref regulations regarding swaps?
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Change in state ref regulations regarding swaps?
Hello BAIC, as I'm nearing completion on my swap (99 2.5RS -->2.0 WRX motor) I get a text message from my friend today that says: "Apparently you can only have direct replacement engines..." and "some people got rejected with their swaps this week. You might wanna look into it."
So I went on www.bar.ca.gov but didn't find any updates to their engine change policy/rules. Does anyone have any info on this? I'm really starting to worry since I already merged the harnesses together.
So I went on www.bar.ca.gov but didn't find any updates to their engine change policy/rules. Does anyone have any info on this? I'm really starting to worry since I already merged the harnesses together.
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i think you will be ok, just make double double sure that you have all the (whatever year your engine is) emmissions equipment in place.
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That makes no sense... Why would they not allow you to put a newer, more efficient engine into an older car?
Not only that, but think of the economic impact of not allowing engine swaps, lots jobs and such... It just doesn't make sense. What would the benefit of enforcing a law like that?
There's no logic there.
Not only that, but think of the economic impact of not allowing engine swaps, lots jobs and such... It just doesn't make sense. What would the benefit of enforcing a law like that?
There's no logic there.
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That makes no sense... Why would they not allow you to put a newer, more efficient engine into an older car?
Not only that, but think of the economic impact of not allowing engine swaps, lots jobs and such... It just doesn't make sense. What would the benefit of enforcing a law like that?
There's no logic there.
Not only that, but think of the economic impact of not allowing engine swaps, lots jobs and such... It just doesn't make sense. What would the benefit of enforcing a law like that?
There's no logic there.
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Originally Posted by brucelee
That makes no sense... Why would they not allow you to put a newer, more efficient engine into an older car?
Not only that, but think of the economic impact of not allowing engine swaps, lots jobs and such... It just doesn't make sense. What would the benefit of enforcing a law like that?
There's no logic there.
Not only that, but think of the economic impact of not allowing engine swaps, lots jobs and such... It just doesn't make sense. What would the benefit of enforcing a law like that?
There's no logic there.
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Here's what my friend was talking about. Apparently state refs can't bar JDM motors anymore. The following quote was from the Nor Cal section on Honda-Tech (my friend is a honda guy)
Originally Posted by hondarazor23 from Honda-Tech
BAD NEWS:
I work at the referee call center downtown and just got clarification on the engine change regulations. Apparently the only engine change allowed right now is a "replacement engine" swap. I wasn't aware of that, I knew before you could change it to whatever as long as the engine that is being installed is the same year or newer, same size or bigger and all smog equipment has to be carried over along with that new engine. Now i dont know if this is permanently or not, i doubt its permanent but i would encourage someone to start a petition and maybe get the process to speed up. BAR is the place to contact if anyone is interested in starting a petition of some sort. (and Bob of Alameda is a good friendly guy, havent met him in person but he calls all the time to schedule appointments for consumers, in which other referee's wouldnt take the time to do, so he is definitely best referee imo)
I work at the referee call center downtown and just got clarification on the engine change regulations. Apparently the only engine change allowed right now is a "replacement engine" swap. I wasn't aware of that, I knew before you could change it to whatever as long as the engine that is being installed is the same year or newer, same size or bigger and all smog equipment has to be carried over along with that new engine. Now i dont know if this is permanently or not, i doubt its permanent but i would encourage someone to start a petition and maybe get the process to speed up. BAR is the place to contact if anyone is interested in starting a petition of some sort. (and Bob of Alameda is a good friendly guy, havent met him in person but he calls all the time to schedule appointments for consumers, in which other referee's wouldnt take the time to do, so he is definitely best referee imo)
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damn that sucks. i doubt its going to stop swaps from happening all the honda kids are still going to put b18c's and k20s into their cars. just gonna have to ride dirty.
let's say you get pulled over in your rs running a wrx motor which is smog legal in every aspect how would the cop know that it is not the proper and stock motor in there. so there would be no reason to send you to the ref..
cause i know if you throw in a big ole k20 with itb's into an eg hatch its going to look pretty apparent that it never came with the car from the factory. but a wrx motor isn't very flashy at all..
let's say you get pulled over in your rs running a wrx motor which is smog legal in every aspect how would the cop know that it is not the proper and stock motor in there. so there would be no reason to send you to the ref..
cause i know if you throw in a big ole k20 with itb's into an eg hatch its going to look pretty apparent that it never came with the car from the factory. but a wrx motor isn't very flashy at all..
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Something like this:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...xu/mail-12.jpg
Also, I'm pretty sure the ref stations aren't closed. Didn't someone here go to the livermore ref station recently to get his RS with an 07 STi swap BAR'd?