In case you didn't have enough reason to not be able to tolerate Occupy Oakland.
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Might throw them off their "career path timeline" but if they really want to make a statement, they should all drop their classes and boycott next semester and the following semester. Or until change is made everyone is happy with.
Hit them where it really hurts.
Hit them where it really hurts.
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And it works extra special super well if you game it by paying lobbyists to re-write the laws so you you don't have to pay any taxes while you sell fraudulent securities and bet your customers money against them, if you lose you get a bailout and if you win- well in either case the rest of the nation loses.
Yes there are a lot of knuckleheads doing stupid stuff, a lot of them have no idea what they are talking about- but as many actually do, (they just aren't as much fun to film and mock in the press) and heck yeah- protesting is a desperate move which in itself won't fix anything.
But take a second to look around- all of DC is bought and sold, the mainstream media is a steady stream of propaganda, corporations (no not all of them, but way too many...) which don't produce anything at all, but rather exist for the sole purpose of sucking wealth from the treasury lose massive amount's of their clients investments, then get away paying a handful of people billions and even getting refunds on taxes they don't pay, while the treasury is tens of trillions in debt- the interest alone approaches what we spend on defense or health care at the federal level.
We are rapidly falling in line right behind Greece and Italy if we don't get the robber-baron money Junkies out of this nation's driver's seat.
And if you think voting makes any difference, they have that under their thumb as well, I mean how obvious can it be?
Sherrie Questioning All: CNBC Wipes OUT Debate Poll after 25 minutes on their site - after Ron Paul Winning in poll! Video - Now they have "Who won debate - Attendees weigh in"! All MSM keeps doing this!
The first entry in the Bill of Rights establishes the freedom to assemble and petition the government for redress, take that away and we all might as well live in Soviet era USSR.
You don't have to support them, or even agree with them but you must respect their rights as long as they are peaceful.
When it comes to throwing rocks and breaking windows- by all means- isolate the perpetrators and throw those people in jail, but you don't go wailing into students with billyclubs for standing around.
Yes there are a lot of knuckleheads doing stupid stuff, a lot of them have no idea what they are talking about- but as many actually do, (they just aren't as much fun to film and mock in the press) and heck yeah- protesting is a desperate move which in itself won't fix anything.
But take a second to look around- all of DC is bought and sold, the mainstream media is a steady stream of propaganda, corporations (no not all of them, but way too many...) which don't produce anything at all, but rather exist for the sole purpose of sucking wealth from the treasury lose massive amount's of their clients investments, then get away paying a handful of people billions and even getting refunds on taxes they don't pay, while the treasury is tens of trillions in debt- the interest alone approaches what we spend on defense or health care at the federal level.
We are rapidly falling in line right behind Greece and Italy if we don't get the robber-baron money Junkies out of this nation's driver's seat.
And if you think voting makes any difference, they have that under their thumb as well, I mean how obvious can it be?
Sherrie Questioning All: CNBC Wipes OUT Debate Poll after 25 minutes on their site - after Ron Paul Winning in poll! Video - Now they have "Who won debate - Attendees weigh in"! All MSM keeps doing this!
The first entry in the Bill of Rights establishes the freedom to assemble and petition the government for redress, take that away and we all might as well live in Soviet era USSR.
You don't have to support them, or even agree with them but you must respect their rights as long as they are peaceful.
When it comes to throwing rocks and breaking windows- by all means- isolate the perpetrators and throw those people in jail, but you don't go wailing into students with billyclubs for standing around.
Im all for the OWS movement if they do it right. Pick a realistic goal and pick people/person to represent you. Go across the nation and assemble to talk to people/politicians and keep pushing your movement via social media. That will get more accomplished than sitting in tents in downtown Oakland. All that its doing so far is getting fellow 99ers pissed, especially the ones who's businesses are down 50-60% and are now struggling to pay rent. How about using that 20k they stored at wells fargo to pay for the cleanup of the protests?
With all the cities struggling with budgets, I dont even see how they're able to allocate enough money for more law enforcement to police these protests. Its going to end up costing the cities more social services in the future and thats something the protestors either arent thinking about or dont care for.
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Shoot them, burry the bodies, and let the good citizens get back to our work of running the country and trying to live our lives.
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....With all the cities struggling with budgets, I dont even see how they're able to allocate enough money for more law enforcement to police these protests. Its going to end up costing the cities more social services in the future and thats something the protestors either arent thinking about or dont care for.
When Bloomberg threatened to evict everyone from Zuchotti park for "clean up" the protesters got pro-active and cleaned things up themselves, it's very simple psychology folks, intelligent constructive engagement and respect for rights will go a lot farther for both sides than ignorance, confrontation, and violence.
Unfortunately it's the boys in blue who seem to be instigating way too much of the violence and we all know that violence begets more violence in return.
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No there is were you are wrong. As far as this american's view comes, they are not "protesting" they are criminals. They dammage property, they look to overthrow the very foundation of our country.
Shoot them, burry the bodies, and let the good citizens get back to our work of running the country and trying to live our lives.
Shoot them, burry the bodies, and let the good citizens get back to our work of running the country and trying to live our lives.
You'd have done well working for KGB in the USSR comrade.
Our constitution also is supposed to guaranty due process of law before punishment, I'm not saying that there are not people engaging in property damage, they are criminals and should be arrested and prosecuted, but by far a vast majority of the protesters are in fact peaceful and voicing legitimate grievances.
Your complete disregard for due process and the protections afforded us under the bill of rights is a far more flagrant attack on the "very foundation of our country" than any anarchist $hithead throwing garbage cans at bank windows is.
And even if you are being facetious (which I sincerely hope you are) it is exactly that kind of thinking which you are expressing that runs totalitarian regimes.
1984 was supposed to be a warning, not a blueprint
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I think that they would find if they tried to work with the protesters to focus "police" activities on the troublemakers and actual lawbreakers- and not try to shut down the entire assembly, law enforcement would be getting better press... but the protest movement would get more support, and the powers that be cannot afford to let that happen.
When Bloomberg threatened to evict everyone from Zuchotti park for "clean up" the protesters got pro-active and cleaned things up themselves, it's very simple psychology folks, intelligent constructive engagement and respect for rights will go a lot farther for both sides than ignorance, confrontation, and violence.
Unfortunately it's the boys in blue who seem to be instigating way too much of the violence and we all know that violence begets more violence in return.
When Bloomberg threatened to evict everyone from Zuchotti park for "clean up" the protesters got pro-active and cleaned things up themselves, it's very simple psychology folks, intelligent constructive engagement and respect for rights will go a lot farther for both sides than ignorance, confrontation, and violence.
Unfortunately it's the boys in blue who seem to be instigating way too much of the violence and we all know that violence begets more violence in return.
They just dont want the tents up. They're not looking to take away their right to protest or anything else.
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Great use of a Movie example......I am about as conservative as they come so some people may find it odd that I support the OWS movement however mis guided, and what they choose to do. Short of damaging property, and costing the working man in the area business.
There is a long story to this but bottom line. This government runs us. We no longer have control over anything.
with the advent of the electoral college what we have to say doesnt matter anymore the people we elect "theres an oxy moron" We dont elect crap anymore. You vote for the person with the biggest campaighn budget, who you believe has the values and ideas you like.
Thanks for closing GITMO Obama "oops sorry he hasnt gotten to that yet"
Thanks for the HEALTH CARE PLAN you promised obama "oops sorry he hasnt gotten it done yet"
Thank you for not doing 99% of what you promised that got you elected Mr Obabma.
The next president will be the same way. The second he doesnt play ball with the powers that be he will be put into a little corner, congress wont do anything he wants, Or he could wind up like JFK........
/RANT
Oh wait Obabma did do two things called TARP 1 & 2 or read in simple tearms. Paid back the people who got him elected on our dime......
There is a long story to this but bottom line. This government runs us. We no longer have control over anything.
with the advent of the electoral college what we have to say doesnt matter anymore the people we elect "theres an oxy moron" We dont elect crap anymore. You vote for the person with the biggest campaighn budget, who you believe has the values and ideas you like.
Thanks for closing GITMO Obama "oops sorry he hasnt gotten to that yet"
Thanks for the HEALTH CARE PLAN you promised obama "oops sorry he hasnt gotten it done yet"
Thank you for not doing 99% of what you promised that got you elected Mr Obabma.
The next president will be the same way. The second he doesnt play ball with the powers that be he will be put into a little corner, congress wont do anything he wants, Or he could wind up like JFK........
/RANT
Oh wait Obabma did do two things called TARP 1 & 2 or read in simple tearms. Paid back the people who got him elected on our dime......
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The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is a program of the United States government to purchase assets and equity from financial institutions to strengthen its financial sector that was signed into law by U.S. President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008.
That's before Obama was even elected. I don't like the guy, but at least accuse the right ******* of the right crimes.
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Your ignorance sir, and the ignorance of people like you, is the real problem in this country:
Troubled Asset Relief Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That's before Obama was even elected. I don't like the guy, but at least accuse the right ******* of the right crimes.
Troubled Asset Relief Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That's before Obama was even elected. I don't like the guy, but at least accuse the right ******* of the right crimes.
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We're doomed!
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Your ignorance sir, and the ignorance of people like you, is the real problem in this country:
Troubled Asset Relief Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That's before Obama was even elected. I don't like the guy, but at least accuse the right ******* of the right crimes.
Troubled Asset Relief Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That's before Obama was even elected. I don't like the guy, but at least accuse the right ******* of the right crimes.
Can I at least stick tarp 2 on him?????????
And my ignorance is usually the reason I just sit in the corner and STFU........
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"TARP 2", aka The Geithner Plan, was how the Treasury spent the $350b of leftover money that was allotted under TARP.
Try again.
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THIS. Nothing is going to change. The entire federal gov is bought and paid for. They do what they are told.
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