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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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He did the time now HE should have a chance to earn his life back.
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by En3D
I agree. I am a dog owner, but he was convicted and served time. Convicted felons are allowed to get a job again, so why should the NFL block his ability to work? He has lost many millions of dollars and will be forever known for this.

He did not rob, kill or rape any one.

Again, I am a dog owner and love my dog very much. But I find it funny that people target this while there are guys who commit far worst crimes to humans and people aren't all that upset.

Here is just one example:
http://www.nndb.com/people/032/000045894/
There are players in the NFL who did rob, rape or kill.

Does anyone remember the Cowboys (I think) player who in two seperate DUI's managed to get into two different wrecks and kill two different people? Where was your outrage for that?
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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He paid his debt to society, right? Doesnt he deserve the chance to earn a living just like any other ex-con? And I dont recall ever hearing anything about him never playing in the NFL again. Also, Im sure he will be signed somewhere, Minnesota or Buffalo would be my guesses, before the middle of August.
Yea the NFL kicked him out and said he would most likey not be allowed back in. I don't think he needs the chance to "earn a living". No I don't think he should be allowed to earn money playing games, make him dig trenches, or do some real work like the rest of us. The guy was a richer than anyone could hope to be, and still had to be involved in the whole dog fighting thing. He's obviously also an idiot. Sorry but he killed dog after dog with malicious intent, the repeated cruelty shows what type of man he is. He deserves to pick up dog ****. Hopefully no team takes him.

If anything they should take all of his money and 50% of anything he makes to go towards animal rights!


And as for the whole dog vs. human thing, most sociopath's start by killing animals, and this is a huge thing when someone can't even show regard for an innocent animals life, they probably. don't respect human life either.

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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by slow04wrx
And as for the whole dog vs. human thing, most sociopath's start by killing animals, and this is a huge thing when someone can't even show regard for an innocent animals life, they probably. don't respect human life either.
That's not wholly true.

Yes, killing and torturing of animals during childhood/young adulthood has shown a high propensity toward anti-social behavior and rooted deeply in psychosis.

However, that type of torturing and killings usually serve no purpose other than to terrorize other children or to release pleasure in the sufferer.

Killing animals in the regard that Vick did was instrumental in his plans for dog fighting - it served a purpose and is most likely NOT rooted in some type of pathology.

Not to mention the battery of psychological tests one is given from the start of trial to release out of jail - he has passed every one and shown not to be a danger to himself or other persons.
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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"I've paid my debt to society" Right, so was Michael Vick in a state funded prison, or did he pay his own way?

If he was in a state funded prison, then he didnt pay any debt to society/the public...the taxpayers funded his "rehabilitation". So he owes that much STILL. No he shouldnt be allowed the honor of playing in the NFL, not after the crap he pulled. What normal person gets convicted of that stuff and can go get the job of their choice? Not anyone that works at my company, not even the lowest wage earners.

This is just the NFL buying Vick for the hype machine. I could care less about dogs btw.
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by slow04wrx
Yea the NFL kicked him out and said he would most likey not be allowed back in. I don't think he needs the chance to "earn a living". No I don't think he should be allowed to earn money playing games, make him dig trenches, or do some real work like the rest of us. The guy was a richer than anyone could hope to be, and still had to be involved in the whole dog fighting thing. He's obviously also an idiot. Sorry but he killed dog after dog with malicious intent, the repeated cruelty shows what type of man he is. He deserves to pick up dog ****. Hopefully no team takes him.

If anything they should take all of his money and 50% of anything he makes to go towards animal rights!


And as for the whole dog vs. human thing, most sociopath's start by killing animals, and this is a huge thing when someone can't even show regard for an innocent animals life, they probably. don't respect human life either.
No, the suspended him for an indefinite period of time, that means undefined, not forever. HE WENT TO PRISON AND SERVED HIS DEBT TO SOCIETY. That is the punishment that we have as society put down on people for over 200 years. There are wife beaters, theives, more DUI's than you can shake a stick at all playing in the NFL and this is where you draw the line? So its OK to beat your wife if you are a millionare star athlete, serve no prison time and not be suspended by the league, but Michael Vick who was convicted in a court of law by his peers and served a sentence perscribed by the law of the United States of America, he should not be allowed back in th NFL? Do you not see the hyprocrisy in your statement?

Why should they take all his money, he actually has none right now he is bankrupt, he already paid his debt to society, that is why we have prison. Do you think that anyone who goes to prison should not be allowed to resume their life after they get out? America was built on second chances, he screwed up, owned up to his mistake (that is a lot more than you can say about most criminals), has truly shown remorse for his actions and is working towards educating people about the evil that is dog fighting.

Yes, most sociopaths do start by killing animals, however they do it as adolescents, and they dont do it by training animals to fight one another. Michael Vick is not a sociopath, he is simply a man who made a huge mistake that cost him everything he had who is trying to make amends for his mistake.
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by STiForFun
"I've paid my debt to society" Right, so was Michael Vick in a state funded prison, or did he pay his own way?

If he was in a state funded prison, then he didnt pay any debt to society/the public...the taxpayers funded his "rehabilitation". So he owes that much STILL. No he shouldnt be allowed the honor of playing in the NFL, not after the crap he pulled. What normal person gets convicted of that stuff and can go get the job of their choice? Not anyone that works at my company, not even the lowest wage earners.

This is just the NFL buying Vick for the hype machine. I could care less about dogs btw.
You dont pay your own way in jail. That might be the stupidest thing I have ever read.

So do you think that anyone who goes to prison should not be allowed to work when they get out? How will they earn money to feed, clothe and put a roof over their heads? Without the ability to earn an honest living, they will go back to a life of crime or they will become one of the many homeless people you see living on the streets. Either way they become the tax payers problem.
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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We as tax payers pay for all prisoners' 3 square meals a day and all the other amenities they require. Personally, I think prisons should be way less "nice" than they are. It would deter more people from committing crimes.
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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vick is the man!!!

im so pumped thats he's back time to start kickin *** and takin names
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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here's my take and trust me... i aint no vick fan...

but the courts have decided what this man's punishment was for the crime(s) he was convicted of.

and in our society we say, LET THEM PAY FOR THEIR CRIMES AND THEN LET THEM BACK IN...

so now, vick is fully released. he needs to continue to make a living. unfortunately he has such a public way of making a living.

so be it.

let him come back into society and we will see how well he adjusts. otherwise, if he did "rehabilitate" then guess what?

it's back to the slammer for him...

and yes, i see him playing for the raiders by the end of the season...
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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Another option that I saw the other week is that possibly the Patriots go to sign him as a backup for Brady (since they really don't have a proven backup).

I was just watching a video where the guy was saying that the Vikings should stop pursuing Brett Favre and instead pursue Michael Vick as he might fit in with their scheme better.
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jewpac42

America was built on second chances,
i thought it was built on rock adn roll


what second chances ?
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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F' that bastard. Just like ex-cons can't get good jobs until their records clear, he shouldn't be able to get one either! He should go work at a fast food joint until his record is clear, then maybe coach a hs football team. That bastard!
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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reasons ex-cons cant get good jobs is that they dont have the SKILLS SET.

vick HAS a major skills set. and a very sought after skills set.



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