Finally Got Protuned by Ed @ EQTuning
Originally Posted by unstble
yeah...dick...I did. please do not take that as an insult...dick! 
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Originally Posted by ucbsti
well not to be a dick again, I dont see what any of that other stuff has to do with your inability to read. Both the OP and ed stated this was a stock car, not to be a dick
I know EQ is gaining a respected following for his tuning ability, but those numbers seem a little bit off what you can expect from a stock car...perhaps Ed will enlighten us on how he's achieving SO much more than other tuners.
(sits and waits for explanation of how this car has a freakishly strong engine)
Originally Posted by mudman
That's the point, a 2004 WRX with 3 cats in place will NOT make 203whp on a mustang, and we are led to believe that Ed's road dyno is in line with the Gruppe-S heartbreaker. I just wanted to hear Ed's explanation as to how those numbers were achieved before raising the BS flag.
I know EQ is gaining a respected following for his tuning ability, but those numbers seem a little bit off what you can expect from a stock car...perhaps Ed will enlighten us on how he's achieving SO much more than other tuners.
(sits and waits for explanation of how this car has a freakishly strong engine)
I know EQ is gaining a respected following for his tuning ability, but those numbers seem a little bit off what you can expect from a stock car...perhaps Ed will enlighten us on how he's achieving SO much more than other tuners.
(sits and waits for explanation of how this car has a freakishly strong engine)
Either way, downsti ran a 12.4 on a stock turbo, so thats pretty inline with the protuned stis that put out 280whp+ on the GS dyno
Eliminating the cats isnt always needed to make good power, its just safer to do so at elevated boost levels to lower egts and over all engine temps (which helps reduce knock potential)
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This was quite a strong motor and responded very well to tuning. This car still has the stock solenoid, so its only running a max of 14.5psi. AFR's are around 10.5:1 with loads of timing. The key was figuring out that this car made the best power with a little more fuel and timing. It took some time to dial in the timing curve propperly and once everything was massaged out, the car consistantly made ~200whp and 200ft-lbs and was knock free. Generally stock cars with a good tune will make ~190whp, so this isn't too far off considering I took some extra time on this car and it seems to be a strong motor in general.
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From what I read in a recent subiesport, Cobb is working on a reflash for the RS/NA imprezas. Nothing on their website yet though.
Yeah. I saw that. I wonder when it'll come out.
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Originally Posted by glenspen
200whp with a stock exhaust and 3 cats? 
don't knock it if you don't know what you're talking about.
One of the first cars tuned by Ed was an 04 WRX with nothing else and made 193~WHP on the Gruppe-S dyno.
Ed, do you still have that dyno anywhere from Joel's car when you guys took it there? It was like two years ago, so those picks could have been on your laptop that got stolen along with your ECUTek stuff.
Last edited by mattsn0w; Oct 3, 2006 at 07:38 PM.
Originally Posted by mcdrama
don't knock it if you don't know what you're talking about.
One of the first cars tuned by Ed was an 04 WRX with nothing else and made 193~WHP on the Gruppe-S dyno.
Ed, do you still have that dyno anywhere from Joel's car when you guys took it there? It was like two years ago, so those picks could have been on your laptop that got stolen along with your ECUTek stuff.
One of the first cars tuned by Ed was an 04 WRX with nothing else and made 193~WHP on the Gruppe-S dyno.
Ed, do you still have that dyno anywhere from Joel's car when you guys took it there? It was like two years ago, so those picks could have been on your laptop that got stolen along with your ECUTek stuff.
As you clearly understand, tuning is more about real world engine performance and not about peak figures, but to compare a road dyno's figures with that of a Mustang dyno is naive.
Ed has gained a great reputation, and you don't get that without happy customers, to date I have never seen or heard a comment about EQ that wasn't positive and many, many people, including yourself, are very happy with their tunes, but 203whp on a stock motor...come on, pull the other one.
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Originally Posted by glenspen
Well I know a stock STI puts down 210-220whp on a mustang, so to get within 10whp with just a flash on a WRX, running 3 cats and a stock turbo is something very special indeed
As you clearly understand, tuning is more about real world engine performance and not about peak figures, but to compare a road dyno's figures with that of a Mustang dyno is naive.
Ed has gained a great reputation, and you don't get that without happy customers, to date I have never seen or heard a comment about EQ that wasn't positive and many, many people, including yourself, are very happy with their tunes, but 203whp on a stock motor...come on, pull the other one.
As you clearly understand, tuning is more about real world engine performance and not about peak figures, but to compare a road dyno's figures with that of a Mustang dyno is naive.
Ed has gained a great reputation, and you don't get that without happy customers, to date I have never seen or heard a comment about EQ that wasn't positive and many, many people, including yourself, are very happy with their tunes, but 203whp on a stock motor...come on, pull the other one.
I do agree that the 203whp could very well read differently on the GS dyno.
For that reason, I do plan on having my car dynod at GS for the sake of having something people can compare with as my car also has road dyno numbers.
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how does the gruppe-s dyno compare to # put up at atp? and ed how close is your road dyno # to those you seen at atp?
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Originally Posted by zumnwrx
how does the gruppe-s dyno compare to # put up at atp? and ed how close is your road dyno # to those you seen at atp?
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ATP = 353whp
Gruppe-S = 307whp
As for the 04 WRX that belonged to Joel according to the dyno logs the most hp it made on the dyno was 171whp, I have the graphs they are dated 2/18/05.
To the original poster, congrats looks like you have a strong motor and a great tune from Ed, curves look great!
Mike