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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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Kevin, Kevin, Kevin......you really can't be serious about this?

When was the last stoning by Christians?
That's kind of my point. In the Bible it commands you to stone people for crimes ranging from murder to sodomy to smarting off to adults if you're a child. christians like to ignore these parts though. At least Muslims do as they believe their God tells them to do.
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Oh' wait' there are no homosexuals in Iran, according to Ahmedinejhad.
Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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That's kind of my point. In the Bible it commands you to stone people for crimes ranging from murder to sodomy to smarting off to adults if you're a child. christians like to ignore these parts though. At least Muslims do as they believe their God tells them to do.
Ughh.
Old Sep 26, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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The point is that ameicans will tollerate this offensive crap, as long as the target is a christian. If it was a homo all hell would break loose. If the same ad was released in persia the actors. photographers and producers would be beheaded or stoned to death.
Majority vs a minority group that has been discriminated against till this day. I wonder why the moral outrage isn't beaming from every media center!
Old Sep 26, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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That's kind of my point. In the Bible it commands you to stone people for crimes ranging from murder to sodomy to smarting off to adults if you're a child. christians like to ignore these parts though. At least Muslims do as they believe their God tells them to do.



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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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Majority vs a minority group that has been discriminated against till this day. I wonder why the moral outrage isn't beaming from every media center!
I'm not really even a christian, I'm an agnostic. I grew up with religious distant realtives but i think all organized religion is flawed, I just call it how I see it. If you can't see it for what it is, you're missing something.

So I can sue someone for discrimination because I can't get job as a fashion designer because I'm strait? If I'm harassed by a gay dudein a bar nothing happens? It's not sexual harassment? I have to be sensative to thier lifestyles? Screw that. I'm protected by the first ammendment. Oh, wait...
I'm just spewing hate speach.

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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by VIBEELEVEN
I'm not really even a christian, I'm an agnostic. I grew up with religious distant realtives but i think all organized religion is flawed, I just call it how I see it. If you can't see it for what it is, you're missing something.
You are crying foul that *gasp* a minority group that is not even on equal footing legally in the US cause no real out cry when they do something like this. Then go on to compare it to what a backwards country would do, high standards you got there buddy. Oh and I am religious, I just better understand how society works it seems.

Originally Posted by VIBEELEVEN
So I can sue someone for discrimination because I'm strait? If I'm harassed by a gay dude nothing happens? It's not sexual harassment? I have to be sensative to thier lifestyles? Screw that. I'm protected by the first ammendment. Oh, wait...
I'm just spewing hate speach.
You are proving your ignorance for me. If you are sexually harassed by a gay dude you have every right to bring it up. It is still sexual harassment, what gave you the idea that it wasn't? What did some gay dude grab your butt and kept doing it? When you told him to stop and he didn't then he told you, you couldn't do anything about it and you believed him? To this day your butt cheeks are still red from all the butt grabbing he did to you?

Also when have you ever been discriminated against for being straight? I have yet to be in a situation where that has happened to me. I find it very odd that you have been put in such a situation.
Old Sep 27, 2007 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
You are crying foul that *gasp* a minority group that is not even on equal footing legally in the US cause no real out cry when they do something like this. Then go on to compare it to what a backwards country would do, high standards you got there buddy. Oh and I am religious, I just better understand how society works it seems.
I didn't cry foul at anything, I just tried to explain to you what the OPs point was... So you're better than me now because you think you have more faith? Please. I said "I'm an agnostic that disagrees with organized religon as a whole." Cliff notes: I believe in somethin', but I think most people are full of crap. How do you not get that?

You are proving your ignorance for me. If you are sexually harassed by a gay dude you have every right to bring it up. It is still sexual harassment, what gave you the idea that it wasn't? What did some gay dude grab your butt and kept doing it? When you told him to stop and he didn't then he told you, you couldn't do anything about it and you believed him?
Also when have you ever been discriminated against for being straight? I have yet to be in a situation where that has happened to me. I find it very odd that you have been put in such a situation.

I have been harassed by dudes, I'm sorry, I get hit on by dudes, women that are too young and women that are too old all the time. If I complained about it, I wouldn't be taken seriousley. I would be laughed at, as you attempted to do. Maybe you don't know because you're' not good looking enough to be hit on, but some gay dudes happen to be quite agressive. Gay dudes are still dudes they still have ***** if you don't already know, they can be agressive, especially when they are drunk. Some don't take no for an answer. I'm not gonna come out and just say: "get away from me ***got!". That would be harassment. Nor am I gonna punch a dude after he grabs my bottom, that would be a hate crime.

To this day your butt cheeks are still red from all the butt grabbing he did to you?
See what I mean? You're not taking it seriousley? You're trying to mock me. Thanks for proving my point.

If you're still not understanding. You're missing something.

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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 01:51 AM
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That's kind of my point. In the Bible it commands you to stone people for crimes ranging from murder to sodomy to smarting off to adults if you're a child. christians like to ignore these parts though. At least Muslims do as they believe their God tells them to do.
Oh for ****s sake! This has to be the worst point ever made here.
Old Sep 27, 2007 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Then go on to compare it to what a backwards country would do, high standards you got there buddy. Oh and I am religious, I just better understand how society works it seems.
Iran isn't really a backwards country per-say. Jews even live there peacefully. Forget about the gay minority altogether. Imagine if Persian women photo reenacted the so-called events of Muhammad and Jibril on Mt. Hira.

Or am I missing what you're meaning?
Old Sep 27, 2007 | 05:21 AM
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Iran isn't really a backwards country per-say. Jews even live there peacefully. Forget about the gay minority altogether. Imagine if Persian women photo reenacted the so-called events of Muhammad and Jibril on Mt. Hira.

Or am I missing what you're meaning?
My meaning is that we shouldn't hold our selves to a lower level just because another country does.
Old Sep 27, 2007 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by VIBEELEVEN
I didn't cry foul at anything, I just tried to explain to you what the OPs point was... So you're better than me now because you think you have more faith? Please. I said "I'm an agnostic that disagrees with organized religon as a whole." Cliff notes: I believe in somethin', but I think most people are full of crap. How do you not get that?
You obviously missed my point again. Because I am in "organized" religion I should be WAY more offended about this than you. I'm not. I understand that others can have different view points than I. I also don't hold the US to the same standards as Iran. Maybe its just me but hey, I want my country to have these types of freedoms.

Originally Posted by VIBEELEVEN
I have been harassed by dudes, I'm sorry, I get hit on by dudes, women that are too young and women that are too old all the time. If I complained about it, I wouldn't be taken seriousley. I would be laughed at, as you attempted to do. Maybe you don't know because you're' not good looking enough to be hit on, but some gay dudes happen to be quite agressive. Gay dudes are still dudes they still have ***** if you don't already know, they can be agressive, especially when they are drunk. Some don't take no for an answer. I'm not gonna come out and just say: "get away from me ***got!". That would be harassment. Nor am I gonna punch a dude after he grabs my bottom, that would be a hate crime.
Hey everybody Vibeeleven gets hit on constantly by gay men, maybe he just throws off that gay vibe! You have no idea how the law works.

Originally Posted by VIBEELEVEN
See what I mean? You're not taking it seriousley? You're trying to mock me. Thanks for proving my point.

If you're still not understanding. You're missing something.
I'm mocking you because you are a joke if you really believe that if you got sexually harassed by a gay dude that you have no recourse in court. I would hope such a "edumacted" individual as yourself would know that.
Old Sep 27, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Oh for ****s sake! This has to be the worst point ever made here.
Not really. Christians use the Old Testament to justify discrimination against homosexuals (among others), but they conveniently ignore the parts they don't like. I see it as the largest fault one can find with practitioners of the faith.
Old Sep 27, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin M
Not really. Christians use the Old Testament to justify discrimination against homosexuals (among others), but they conveniently ignore the parts they don't like. I see it as the largest fault one can find with practitioners of the faith.

If you can't see the huge difference between discriminating someone & cutting there ****ing head off, there's no point continuing this discussion.



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