Just trying to be optimistic in the thread title unlike some of us.

So what's the story now? The election was a HUGE success thus far. Go ahead and turn on your television for the coverage. People are dancing, honking their horns and crying tears if joy in the streets. There's pictures among pictures of people with wax covered index fingers as a symbol of their support in Democracy. Make no mistake about it. The huge 72%+ of the voting population proves that the Iraqi people want Democracy and nothing more than to mock terrorism. This figure makes the American voting population look foolish and spoiled in what they take for granted.

Some people are even taking stands that put them in great Jeopardy:

http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/39526.htm

You may think it's a joke but at least they're taking a chance in what they believe regardless of potential risks and an uncertain future.

So who's going to be the first person to drag this thread down? Who's going to be the first person to **** in the elections cornflakes and side with the minority?

 

I have a great disdain for Bush and his thugs, but that doesn't mean that I ever want the US to fail just to prove them wrong. When they're wrong I'll point it out, but if they're right I'll point that out as well. Bush mislead us regarding WMDs, but if we can gain a Democratic nation in the mideast out of this, I'll be as happy as any Bush supporter.


-Chris

 

I think everyone who can think rationally is sick of the "mislead" wmd reference.

 

yah why bother with it they lied outright..

no need for mislead..

they did lie and for that i will never EVER forgive them. They pissed on every single one of us with their lies. If they would have just come out and said "we want to liberate iraq due to its leader being a major *******, or this and that justification based on morals and ethics" i would have no problem with it. But whipping the world up into a frenxy about non existent weapons of mass destruction is completly manufactured lie. And for that there should be ramifications, not just the head of CIA (who was a scapegoat) but cabinent members whos sole purpose was to justify a war should be held accountable. We have had HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DIE to date.

Simply because we have seen a glimmer of hope in a rather hopeless situation does not justify our leadership blatently lieing and abusing their power.

 

The huge turnout despite of the possibility of bombing and or terrorists attacks is absolutely amazing. Hopefully this will be a turning point over there and we can slowly start to disingage from there and the Iraqi's can start to really govern themselves.

And Vibe, even Salty admitted that the administration used WMD's as a way to gain the public's support post 9/11 whether or not it was their primary focus. It's naive to think that they didn't mislead on the subject. I remember Rummy and Cheney using words like definitely and absolutely.

 

Werd, the wmd thing was stupid in the first place, hell I said it to begin with before they even went in. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't opposed to them going into Iraq, I just thought having that as the sole reason was a bit asinine.

 

Are you telling me that lying and generally misleading the American people are new to any administration? You feel hurt and deceived, but that's just because you KNOW about this lie. (your words)

There is a long list of responses that the US citizen have available to them, all along the spectrum. Anything from writing letters to the editor of your hometown newspaper (or car club forum) to not voting for the guy all the way to insurrection.

What did you do? Did it make you feel better?

 

The only reason those people in Iraq are celebrating and partying is because they think the elections mean the Americans will be leaving soon.

After all- all the objectives have been met;
We've stopped the threat of WMD from Iraq (well there really wasn't a WMD threat, but who cares)
We've taken Saddam out of power (never mind that the guy we propped up in his place is just about as corrupt and dictatorial as Saddam ever was)
Now we've brought democracy to Iraq, (well people got to vote anyway, they might not have known who they were voting for, or what the candidates positions are, but they got to vote!)

what possible reason is there for the occupation to continue? (I'm sure Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz will think of something)

My guess- the dancing in the strees is going to end as soon as they realize that the occupation is continuing

 

Everyone of the people that's been interviewed thus far is celebrating because they have a freedom of choice. I did not hear one interviewee mention anything about their anticipation for the Americans leaving soon. I'm sure it's in the back of their minds but try and give the liberation some due credit for once.