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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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i am watching and whhen he was like john mcain is no maverick part of the speech he should of gone

YOU JUST GOT SERVED and he should of started brake dancing, but she has been side stepping or changing subject on some questions
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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I agree she's not doing the best on answering the questions, but I didn't expect that from her. She's still politically young. The only experience she has is round table debates with other Mayoral and Gubernatorial candidates. I'm surprised how well she's doing

With that said, I think she's thrown some pretty good punches that make you say "Wow, that was awesome." I just can't stand Biden's bs. I'm shocked if people can't see through it. Furthermore, Matt is right, she is talking to the American people. She's trying her hardest to connect to the average American. Biden is trying well, but he too often portrays himself as above other people.

I must say though, I do like that it's been fairly light-hearted, unlike the Pres. debate. You can tell in Biden's face, when they have the split screen, that he is also impressed with her. (Maybe it's really just the smirk that he knows he's going to win the debate)
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
Also, Biden is looking at and addressing the host chick, Palin is looking at the camera... Interesting tactics.
For seeming to be a pretty left leaning liberal, you don't watch too much PBS...
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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eah he was looking at the camera in pbs lol!
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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I've been watching the debate on MSNBC, and I have to say I HATE Rachael Madow. I think she is a horrible show host and news commentator. She bugs the CRAP outta me.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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I wonder who i-Club supports. . .

Old Oct 2, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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I wonder who i-Club supports. . .

duh....tire rack!
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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Palin stole the show. She's got way more energy than Biden. Biden made too many false acusations.

Energy independence! Lower taxes! Greater security!

Registration deadline is just around the corner.

VOTE OR DIE...lol.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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GILF

Palin stole the show. She's got way more energy than Biden. Biden made too many false acusations.

Energy independence! Lower taxes! Greater security!

Registration deadline is just around the corner.

VOTE OR DIE...lol.
Care to tally up false accusations for both sides with proof?

I must admit though, Palin did better than expected (I don't know enough about politics or debating though to judge who won).
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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Palin's performance actually surprised me a lot! I thought she was gonna have another Ms. Teen South Carolina 2007-esque moment again like a few days ago. I wouldn't go so far as to say that she was so disjointed and such as () with Katie Couric on purpose just so it would seem like she "shined" in tonite's debate, but it makes me wonder. Of course, I don't truly believe they'd manufacture something that could hurt your campaign. It's just important to recognize the context.

They both did a good job of pushing for their No. 1's w/ a bit of an edge to Palin in the cheerleader role, which, imho, is one of the goals in a VP debate.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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They both did a good job of pushing for their No. 1's w/ a bit of an edge to Palin in the cheerleader role, which, imho, is one of the goals in a VP debate.
Bingo!

I don't think Palin was surprising. She had to be aggressive to be taken seriously and she had to connect with the country which she tried really hard to do. She didn't necessarily connect with me, but neither did Biden.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrisnonstop
GILF

Palin stole the show. She's got way more energy than Biden. Biden made too many false acusations.

Energy independence! Lower taxes! Greater security!

Registration deadline is just around the corner.

VOTE OR DIE...lol.
See, I'd agree that Palin stone the show at first simply by looking way better than anybody expected her to. However, I think it was pretty obvious that she was consistently dodging questions, and Biden did a great job of pounding his points home. The economy is what is on everybody's mind, and by working hard to appeal to middle class voters I believe that he came off with the stronger message. IMHO, this was most evident in the closing remarks where Biden made a very strong stand.

And false accusations? Seriously? Palin was throwing them out there left and right. 94 times to raise taxes? Voted to cut off funding for the troops? I am not by any means saying that Biden was a saint - he also made some blatantly false accusations - but Palin made just as many.

Overall, my reportcard on how they presented themselves was:
Palin - B+ : WAY better than people expected, but still looked like she was dodging questions and I do not believe that she demonstrated a connection with the regular voter in the continental united states.

Biden - A- : He stuck to his guns, and presented a powerful message of change and middle class power. While I am not sure how I feel about this tactic from a political ideology perspective, I think that it worked well in the context of the debate and as an attempt to pull in middle class voters worried about their economic futures.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jvick125
For seeming to be a pretty left leaning liberal, you don't watch too much PBS...
im middle right... just not religious right if you cath my drift. cant vote for john.


sorry if i dont watch pbs, and listen to npr, doesnt mean i cant vote for obama.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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Palin wasn't completely destroyed. She only kinda lost. Which means she won it! [/faux news]

In all honesty, I don't think she did anything to sway the swing voters. She certainly did a good job of firing up those who were already going to vote for her. I also don't think Biden moved many swing votes either. I doubt we'll see any significant shift it the polls from this.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jvick125
I agree she's not doing the best on answering the questions, but I didn't expect that from her. She's still politically young. The only experience she has is round table debates with other Mayoral and Gubernatorial candidates. I'm surprised how well she's doing

With that said, I think she's thrown some pretty good punches that make you say "Wow, that was awesome." I just can't stand Biden's bs. I'm shocked if people can't see through it. Furthermore, Matt is right, she is talking to the American people. She's trying her hardest to connect to the average American. Biden is trying well, but he too often portrays himself as above other people.

I must say though, I do like that it's been fairly light-hearted, unlike the Pres. debate. You can tell in Biden's face, when they have the split screen, that he is also impressed with her. (Maybe it's really just the smirk that he knows he's going to win the debate)
you cant beleive ppl cant see through biden??

ppl cant beleiev that ppl cant see throgh palin!

she constantly moved around questions, thats sad.

ill admit she did better than i expected.

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