U.S. Army gets a new machine gun

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11-02-2009, 08:32 PM

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1reguL8NSTi, thank you for your service!

I'm glad that the US military finally found the funding to get a new machine gun out there. The 240 was heavily flawed (when not maintained properly), and it is heavy as hell especially with all that ammo. People think my M1A SOCOM 16 is heavy, PSSSSH! They haven't seen anything yet.

No thank you needed sir, I have the best job on earth. Thanks for paying your taxes.

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Yeah I agree about the ammo being the primary reason why you need an AG when operating the 240. There's really no good way to attach ammo to it. Those belts can easily get kinked up and cause a malfunction. The Mk48 uses a "*******" ammo pouch that attaches to the bottom like the SAW. Plus you can still feed it from a 200rd belt or ammo can like a regular 240 if it's mounted.

I wasn't even referring to the "no drum" issue. Carrying 1000 rounds of linked 5.56 is a pain in the ***. Carrying 1000 rounds of 7.62 is down right burdensome. At the end of the day though Haji will put his head down for both which is really all the SAW is for, providing a base of fire for squad movement. Basically, make a lot of noise and kick up some dust. Don't get me wrong, I personally hate the SAW but have humped it before and if you keep it clean and treat the trigger as a "switch" it'll fire damn near every time (as long as you check to clear linkage after each lull and "f" the safety by rolling amber). Frankly, my unit gets to pick and choose what it carries now so it's really not a concern. Pretty much everyone keeps an M-4 style weapon handy for ease of movement as a lot of what we do it MOUT oriented. When a 240 is needed though, I'm the man for that. I love that thing. I was a designated marksmen for ages and can fire a 240 damn near just as accurately.

11-02-2009, 10:02 PM

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Feel free to STFU when grown folks are talking.

Shoot boys I have carried both weapons in combat. I say they work just fine the way they are. The SAW is a great weapon as is. The 556 round is a good round. The 240 is a much better weapon for support. I carried the 240 all the way up to Bagdhad, then when we started to clear houses and I switch back to the SAW.

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11-02-2009, 10:05 PM

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Peace!

11-02-2009, 10:06 PM

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Now the next step is to stop the PC bull****, take the gloves off and really put those tools to use.

11-02-2009, 10:10 PM

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The military still uses Naplam, but they just renamed it, so just give the gun a PC name and it should fly, call it the peacemaker 2009.

11-02-2009, 10:46 PM

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I have no idea what you guys are talking about but it sounds AWESOME!

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hahahahahahaha holy **** that was awesome

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I too don't know what you're talking about but sounds AWESOME!!!

i too would like to shoot the awesomenss

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shoot boys I have carried both weapons in combat. I say they work just fine the way they are. The SAW is a great weapon as is. The 556 round is a good round. The 240 is a much better weapon for support. I carried the 240 all the way up to Bagdhad, then when we started to clear houses and I switch back to the SAW.

this is a good responce the other one was useless
and i fixed it a bit for you

dont dodge the swear filter please

11-02-2009, 11:03 PM

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Sir yes sir, sorry about that.

11-03-2009, 09:14 AM

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Thats a neat piece and will be better for portability but have you seen this for CSW

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM307_A..._Served_Weapon

I played with one of these in late 2005 but it was a composite prototype weighing 24 lbs.
it switches between 25mm HEDP and 50cal. This was set to replace the M2 and MK-19 the switchout was as easy as replacing the barrell and a drum which cycles the rounds.The barrel was the only moving part reducing recoil. I had it mounted on a crowes system. It has the capability to program rounds for airburst but the rounds do not currently have the capability. Even in prototype form it was bad azz. Could be man carried but not meant for it.

Just my humble opinion on the M-249. It sucks as a CSW but man carried with a collapsable stock and the short barrrel with an elcan on top properly maintained its unstopable. We curently issue these to our drivers or team leaders to put more fire power on the ground in this configuration. The army has come a long way as far as the modularity a squad leader or PL has as far as load out.

11-03-2009, 09:29 AM

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For the record, a SAW is NOT, not has it ever been, a crew served machine gun.

11-03-2009, 10:32 AM

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For the record, a SAW is NOT, not has it ever been, a crew served machine gun.

In Marine rifle squads, there's an Assistant Automatic Rifleman that helps carry extra ammo for the SAW gunner and take over the weapon in the event he is injured or killed.

11-03-2009, 10:33 AM

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Are team leaders all had M203 and are drivers had M16's. But thats was my unit, an Infantry line unit.

11-03-2009, 10:34 AM

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In Marine rifle squads, there's an Assistant Automatic Rifleman that helps carry extra ammo for the SAW gunner and take over the weapon in the event he is injured or killed.

same in the army infantry

11-03-2009, 10:37 AM

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Are team leaders all had M203 and are drivers had M16's. But thats was my unit, an Infantry line unit.

Which unit, where are you now?

11-03-2009, 10:39 AM

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same in the army infantry

For good reason too. You guys have 9 man squads instead of 13 like in the MC. If a SAW goes down, you just lost a huge percentage of your squad's firepower.