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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
whats a modern govmt?
A government that is up to date with the progresses of society.

Our forefathers revolted against the tyranny of England because it had stagnated in that area and created the 'modern' (at least to them) American government.
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
ok your company failed it could not compete let me give y ou money because you dont have any and hopefully some how it will get better. you didnt see yourselfs getting into this mess for months

that doesnt sound like me
honestly, I'm still speechless by the audacity of the Big 3
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by VRT MBasile
honestly, I'm still speechless by the audacity of the Big 3
The Big 3?


They're NOTHING compared to the banks. At least they're accountable for the money they got. The banks got to pull... well we can't tell you exactly where it is.

I can tell you were bank of americas is. Bonuses and a complete corporate rebrand. A ****ty one. Who puts a blue logo over a red box. Seriously. That's design 101. It's called Vibration son. Looks like ****.
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by R-Dub
A government that is up to date with the progresses of society.

Our forefathers revolted against the tyranny of England because it had stagnated in that area and created the 'modern' (at least to them) American government.
well whos fault is it that people that would facilitate change were not put in place now a days?
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
The Big 3?


They're NOTHING compared to the banks. At least they're accountable for the money they got. The banks got to pull... well we can't tell you exactly where it is.

I can tell you were bank of americas is. Bonuses and a complete corporate rebrand. A ****ty one. Who puts a blue logo over a red box. Seriously. That's design 101. It's called Vibration son. Looks like ****.
yeah but im sure chrysler will still not be around in three years or less. htey are screwed

banks have some kind of hope though
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
well whos fault is it that people that would facilitate change were not put in place now a days?
The two party system that only incorporates extreme rightist/leftist phony politicians.
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
I'm not preaching "Tear it all down", more like a slap in the face to wake folks up.
I agree. The apathy is frightening and at times can start to be contagious.

You ask - what is the limit of our Gov't abuses and if it's currently OK with us. I would say that the limit has been crossed a while ago (whether we think we know it or not) HOWEVER - to a point of course - who can blame them when The United People do not stand up and ****ing do something about it.

It would be simply awesome to see people stand united and make a difference. Who's going first?
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
What is your limit of gov't abuses?
DO you find our current gov't "OK"?
What would it take for you to become an active member of a revolution to return this country to it's rightful owners?

I'm not saying "let's starting killing people"....yet.
It's quite obvious to me that voting just doesn't get things done.

What topics would you include on a new Declaration of Independence?

Here's a link to a very readable version of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776

In another time, American's killed for **** like this:

"He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out their substance."

"For imposing taxes on us without our consent;"

"For depriving us, in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury;"
Yeah... I'm in...

I'd like to remove religion from ALL govt entities... like it used to be. I don't want to hear it, read it, or have to repeat it in some court. It's unconstitutional, and I'm ****ing tired of it.

I'm tired of this country wasting money, and stepping into the business of other nations. We need to focus on our nation first before helping or fighting other nations.

I'm tired of people who cannot accept that as time moves one things change. Hicks need to understand that the world is moving forward, and it's not the same as it was 50 or 100 years ago. We can stop hating people already, we can stop *****ing about race or gender, or sexual orientation. Get used to it already... yes, NASCAR ****ing blows chunks.

How about we stop making excuses for people. Let the ones who failed die already. **** them, they wanted to live past their means, and they wanted be union make more and work less. lazy ****ers, hope they starve.

Hope this country learns a lesson. Hope we don't take living here in relative peace and freedom for granted. Hope people learn to lower their egos, and work for less, to be thankful they have work at all.

History tells me, we won't and that in 10 years we will be living porky all over again.
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
I'd like to remove religion from ALL govt entities... like it used to be. I don't want to hear it, read it, or have to repeat it in some court. It's unconstitutional, and I'm ****ing tired of it.
One can only hope that religion will one day be removed from the general public and the government; do what you want on Saturday/Sunday and behind closed doors and I'll return the favor.

Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
I'm tired of this country wasting money, and stepping into the business of other nations. We need to focus on our nation first before helping or fighting other nations.
Again, we can only hope that we will stop trying to play the White Knight and save the world at the expense of our taxpayers and our standard of living here at home. No other country bends over backward to help out some **** hole in the middle of the desert other than us. Time for the US to look after the US for 10 years or so.

That or, if the world wants our help - heres a thought - be ****ing grateful that we do instead of killing our soldiers and cursing our names. In every other country in this world, Americans are treated like scum and hated. I had a friend visit India just recently and while she was walking down the street in an area that is still recovering from the Tsunami- she was called 'A ****ing ******* American' - Hey pal - that food, water, shelter, medicine and help you got from us - yeah, you're welcome; next time, you are SOL.

Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
I'm tired of people who cannot accept that as time moves one things change. Hicks need to understand that the world is moving forward, and it's not the same as it was 50 or 100 years ago. We can stop hating people already, we can stop *****ing about race or gender, or sexual orientation.
That is why I think it is time for a change in the government, times have changed, we as a people are different than what we were even 40 years ago - the government cannot expect to remain the way it is forever (religion thinks it can, and last time I checked, I couldn't sell my sister into slavery as the Bible says I can)

Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
How about we stop making excuses for people. Let the ones who failed die already. **** them, they wanted to live past their means, and they wanted be union make more and work less. lazy ****ers, hope they starve.
The goal would be that we would have the excess resources and man power to protect these people and get them back on track in their lives. If we stopped hemmoraging money out of this country and kept it in here, we could afford better rehabilitation and programs for the disabled, mentally disturbed and those who, yes, made poor financial choices. That's not to say they get a free Golden Ticket - you have to pay it back after you get your **** together.
Old May 20, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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So.. Is it time yet?
Old May 20, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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Wait for it.....wait for it.....
Old May 20, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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Here's some useful information that has been proven to work for over 200yrs:

Don't forget nothing

Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured,
sixty rounds of powder and bell, and be ready to move
at a minute's warning

When you are on the march, act the way you would,
if you was sneaking up on a deer;
see the enemy first

Tell the truth about what you see and what you you do.
There is an Army depending on us for correct information.
You can lie all you please when you tell other folks
about the Rangers. But never lie to an Officer or Ranger.

Don't never take a chance you don't have to.
When we're on the march, we march single file,
far enough apart so one shot can't go through two men.
If we strike swamps, or soft ground, we spread out abreast
so it's hard to track us.

When we march, we keep moving until dark,
so as to give the enemy the least possible chance at us.
Whe we camp, half the party stays awake
while the others half sleeps.

If we take prisoners, we keep 'em separate
till we have had time to examine them,
so they can't cook up a story between 'em.

Don't ever march home the same way.
Take a different route so you won't be ambushed.

No matter whether we travel in big parties
or little ones, each party has to keep a scout
20 yards ahead, 20 yards on each flank,
and 20 yards in the rear, so the main body
can't be surprised and wiped out.

Every night you will be told where to meet
if surrounded by a superior force.

Don't sit down to eat without posting sentries.

Don't sleep beyond dawn;
dawn's when the French and Indians attack

Don't cross a river by a regular ford.

If somebody's trailing you, make a circle,
come back onto your own trail,
and ambush the folks that aim to ambush you.

Don't stand up when the enemy's coming against you.
Kneel down, lie down, hide behind a tree.
Let the enemy come till he's close enough to touch.
Then let him have it and jump out
and finish him up with your hatchet.
Old May 20, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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Where did you stand during the Bush administration? Since I am newer here, I am curious.

The reason I ask.

I would give you more validity if you posted just as much about all the ****ed up stuff Bush did. If you didn't have anything to say about Bush, then I would say that your ignorance will get you nowhere. I was not a supporter of Bush and I did not vote for Obama, but I will have a mighty good laugh if you supported Bush.
Old May 20, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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lets go the way of the Czech Republic, the Velvet Revolution, no blood has to be spilled. If you use the violence of the government you are trying to overthrow, are you not yourself becoming what you hate?

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Old May 20, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo Rob
Where did you stand during the Bush administration? Since I am newer here, I am curious.

The reason I ask.

I would give you more validity if you posted just as much about all the ****ed up stuff Bush did. If you didn't have anything to say about Bush, then I would say that your ignorance will get you nowhere. I was not a supporter of Bush and I did not vote for Obama, but I will have a mighty good laugh if you supported Bush.

Bush may have ****ed up alot in your terms, but he also started in a really crappy situation to begin with.



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