Theories: evolution and intelligent design
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hehe... they sound pretty funny: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite
I have met some amazing people of faith with incredible, brilliant minds. If you think that there is a corrolation between people of faith and an inability to reason and think with an open-mind, than you've got a lot to learn in this fun game called life.
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I have met some amazing people of faith with incredible, brilliant minds. If you think that there is a corrolation between people of faith and an inability to reason and think with an open-mind, than you've got a lot to learn in this fun game called life.
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
My friend someday we will be able to proccess information at levels that would dwarf the current computational power of ever single human and machine on this earth at this very moment. And i give it 100 years or less before that is a reality...
With that level of computational ability at the layperson fingertips we cant even BEGIN TO ASSUME the limits or capabilities of such systems.
So to state that something would NEVER be possible is only advertising your limited ability of comprehension.
As i said.. NEVER SAY NEVER
simply because you cant understand something now doesnt mean that you or your children someday wont...
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No matter what though, no ID in science class at public schools. Regardless of anyones religion or lack there of.
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We have a town in Southern Indiana called New Harmony.
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ARE YOU NOT READING IT! IT DOESN'T ****ING MATTER! OMFG!
yes it does matter...
the ability to comprehened an issue and or a problem is directly related to your ability to solve it or "prove" it using math or any other form of science.
We are barely able to comprehend the simplest of reactions and functions around us, much less the complexities of time, space, or matter.
You and i arent even able to grasp the full impact of "space" much less link an association between the amount of "space" in "space" and the probabilities of life within it. We wont even get into the whole "understanding the volume of space" issue.
Put it like this..
We want to solve a N to the 10 trillionth problem set with the capabilities of an abacus.
It just isnt going to happen until we get more mental HP behind us..
here read this little article from kurzweil..
http://beta.news.com.com/Ray+Kurzwei...-5885116.html?
the man is dead right btw... its just a matter of time before we start enhancing our proccessing ability. (if we havent allready started
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But our increased "processing abilities" will not necessarily give us the firepower to disprove God. I think, conversely, we will soon be able to understand the extreme complexities of God's mind and His creation.
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I missed this debate it looks like. I don't usually watch TBN but I saw a program about intelligent design they broadcast that was top notch. It was not (at least overtly) propaganda, in fact I did not hear them mention Christ even once that I can recall. http://www.illustramedia.com/umolinfo.htm
The principle of irreducible complexity was of particular interest and relevance to this debate. The animations and the expert opinions really helped clarify the intelligent design theory. Intelligent design contrary to popular belief does not endorse any one religion or religion at all for that matter. It simply opens up a realm of possibility that many in the scientific community do not want to explore and in fact wish to exclude entirely.
The script is free, but it lacks the dvd's helpful animations of course.
http://www.illustramedia.com/scripts...LifeScript.pdf
Darwin once said:
"If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."
Powerful words from the man himself.
The principle of irreducible complexity was of particular interest and relevance to this debate. The animations and the expert opinions really helped clarify the intelligent design theory. Intelligent design contrary to popular belief does not endorse any one religion or religion at all for that matter. It simply opens up a realm of possibility that many in the scientific community do not want to explore and in fact wish to exclude entirely.
The script is free, but it lacks the dvd's helpful animations of course.
http://www.illustramedia.com/scripts...LifeScript.pdf
Darwin once said:
"If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."
Powerful words from the man himself.
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Those are powerful words, but there hasn't been an organ like that yet.
Does this show you saw have any way to test intelligent design scientifically? If not, then it still doesn't belong in sci class...put it in philosophy or religion as an elective. Science is a process, the reason scientists do not want to test intelligent design is because there is no way to do so and still retain the objectivity and principles of a scientific endeavor.
Does this show you saw have any way to test intelligent design scientifically? If not, then it still doesn't belong in sci class...put it in philosophy or religion as an elective. Science is a process, the reason scientists do not want to test intelligent design is because there is no way to do so and still retain the objectivity and principles of a scientific endeavor.
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There is an organ like it, its called a bacterial flagellum.
There is no way to test how life was first created period. Unless they've invented a time machine and pinpointed the exact moment and place it happened on this planet. Science is a process a process of elimination, but more and more that process often times, seems to be excluding the possiblity that some being set this crazy world full of life into motion. They don't even present an argument for or against it to eliminate it from the scietific process of elimination. I find that disturbing. Read the script and tell me what you do and do not agree with.
There is no way to test how life was first created period. Unless they've invented a time machine and pinpointed the exact moment and place it happened on this planet. Science is a process a process of elimination, but more and more that process often times, seems to be excluding the possiblity that some being set this crazy world full of life into motion. They don't even present an argument for or against it to eliminate it from the scietific process of elimination. I find that disturbing. Read the script and tell me what you do and do not agree with.
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Read starting from 53 to 90 something in the script.
http://www.illustramedia.com/scripts...LifeScript.pdf
http://www.illustramedia.com/scripts...LifeScript.pdf
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