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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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Hey man we wll know republican bombs are bad
If Kerry would've won we'd be hearing about how he brought stability to the region and had a successful Iraqi election in less than a month.

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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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I could never imagine living my life as a pessimist. Scoobsport can you tell us what it’s like? Oh and just out of burning curiosity, who are those that do the real thinking? :givingthebird:
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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Well said Vibeeleven,
I had one of the guys who used to be in my unit die on Friday from an IED. I am glad to see that his life was not wasted as he was an incredible person. I think we should look at the election as the most significant day of progress in the country. We have given their people a taste of democracy. Now it's important to see how bad they want it to continue. Start bring troops back to their families and see if they care as much as they say they do. At least now all those Americans who lost their lives did not die in vein. For their sake, their families will at least get some solace knowing that they gave to a cause greater than themselves. That's whats important.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by VIBEELEVEN
Hey man we wll know republican bombs are bad
If Kerry would've won we'd be hearing about how he brought stability to the region and had a successful Iraqi election in less than a month.
No but Kerry could of brought something Bush can't. And thats change, and drastic change that I still think Iraq will need to succeed. And Iraq is less than stable, all i think scoob was saying is that don't get over excited when things are hardly over. This is just a positive step but we have MANY more to go.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrisnonstop
I could never imagine living my life as a pessimist. Scoobsport can you tell us what it’s like? Oh and just out of burning curiosity, who are those that do the real thinking? :givingthebird:

Ah but see I don't think he is living his life as a pessimist I believe its more along the lines of a realist.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 1reguL8NSTi
Well said Vibeeleven,
I had one of the guys who used to be in my unit die on Friday from an IED. I am glad to see that his life was not wasted as he was an incredible person. I think we should look at the election as the most significant day of progress in the country. We have given their people a taste of democracy. Now it's important to see how bad they want it to continue. Start bring troops back to their families and see if they care as much as they say they do. At least now all those Americans who lost their lives did not die in vein. For their sake, their families will at least get some solace knowing that they gave to a cause greater than themselves. That's whats important.
They shouldn't of been there in the first place. But thats another discussion. And I don't think we will be bringin back troops anytime soon sadly. More than anything I think we will be staying a few more years atleast.
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Chrisnonstop
I could never imagine living my life as a pessimist. Scoobsport can you tell us what it’s like? Oh and just out of burning curiosity, who are those that do the real thinking? :givingthebird:

BWAhahahahahhahahahahahah

This made my night.

You didn't read my post, did you? If you had, well, you would understand that I simply live in reality...

I see I stuck a chord... If someone told you 2+2=4, would you flip them off and roll your eyes?
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Chrisnonstop
You said:

No, that's not true. Definately not my point of vew.
What is your view, then? This is just the impression I got from all of the 'insight' you've had to offer.

Originally Posted by Chrisnonstop
You always have to prepare for the worst. However you must always remain optimistic or you are setting yourself up for failure. This is how "winners" think.
Tell me, how can you be prepared for the worst when you discount feasible problems as 'anti-american' (specifically referring to your comment on the artice by the Republican congressman). As I said, I agree that it's important that some people remain optimistic (namely those in combat), but can't you see the danger of being too optimistic? You say we should be prepared for the worst. Using your logic, I call you a drag on our military efforts. Understand now?


Originally Posted by Chrisnonstop
...I think you're the type of person that thinks you're never wrong.
You got it! Finally, you got something right! Prove me wrong and perhaps I'll change. It appears to me as if you aren't thinking for yourself, rather, FOX news is thinking for you. I believe I can see through party lines and am able to make a reasonable, objective, evaluation. I wish well for our military's efforts, but I also see it important to approach possible situations with a realistic mindset, doing all we can to be prepared. For example, this kind of thinking may have prevented 9/11, and perhaps in turn our current military dedication in the middle east. Calling this 'anti-american' is simply retarded.


Originally Posted by Chrisnonstop
Do you think we grew up together? You don't know me, you don't know what I'm thinking and now you've just put me in a group of people you've classified as "People who can't see anything else". Stop it. There are far more constructive ways to get your point accross.
Why would I need to know you to make those generalized comments? When did I put you in that group? Looks to me like you just did yourself. How about rather than making desperate pleas for me to stop being mean, why not prove to me that you CAN see something else?


Don't bring that sh*t in my house

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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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I never said they should be there. All I was saying is that they are there and at least now something remotely resembling a democracy has been created. I'm not going to get into the discussion of whether they should be there or not for the 9493493 trillionth time. All I was saying is that at least now; those who are there now, those who have been there and those who have lost loved ones there will get some feeling of satisfaction knowing something was accomplished.
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And im saying that its to early to tell what will happen. And that this is not a accomplishment unless it last the sands of time.
Old Feb 1, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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Arab League Reaction to Election
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/...storyId=4473339

Secretary General (of the Arab League) Mussa differentiates between insurgents and Iraqis "who have a stake in whatever happens in Iraq", and that the "moment is ripe for Iraqis to move from any kind of violence to political opposition according to the democratic position."

"Friction between Arabs and kurds, Christians and Muslims....must stop."

"We believe that people should not look back, should move ahead, through democracy."

Renee Montagne asks if the huge voter turnout changes the Arab view of US policy in Iraq.

Mussa replies: "To discuss US policy in Iraq, we would have to get back to the past...I propose a different approach: let us work together from now on regardless of the positions taken in the past."
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