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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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Putin- Bush defeat would help terrorists

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DUSHANBE, Tajikistan — Russian President Vladimir Putin (search) said Monday that terrorists are aiming to derail U.S. President George W. Bush's chances at re-election through their attacks in Iraq.

"I consider the activities of terrorists in Iraq are not as much aimed at coalition forces but more personally against President Bush," Putin said at a news conference after a regional summit in the Tajik capital, Dushanbe.

"International terrorism has as its goal to prevent the election of President Bush to a second term," he said. "If they achieve that goal, then that will give international terrorism a new impulse and extra power."

Still, Putin didn't say which candidate he favored in the Nov. 2 U.S. presidential election.

"We unconditionally respect any choice of the American people," he said. "I don't want to spoil relations with either candidate."

Putin also noted his continuing disagreement with Bush on Washington's invasion of Iraq, which Russia strongly opposed as a permanent member of the U.N. Security Council.

"Russia was always against the military operations in Iraq," he said.
Old Oct 18, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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To be fair and balanced, why don't we see who Jacque Chirac is supporting in the AMERICAN presidential election.

Like we care what Vladimir thinks.

Do you realize what Putin is doing in Russia right now? You might want to keep up with the latest global news. He's not too reputable right now.

Let me help you ...

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In an office at the parliament building Friday, one official broke from Russian into English and lowered his voice to barely a whisper, nodding his head toward the wall, as if it might be listening.

"Democracy is finished in this country," he said. "It is over. It ended on the 13th of September."
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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To be fair and balanced, why don't we see who Jacque Chirac is supporting in the AMERICAN presidential election.
Ahahahhahahahhah LOL...a ahahhahahahah... How can you take that seriously!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHHhhh...

Imagine if you were serious!!! =)
Old Oct 18, 2004 | 03:12 PM
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Ahahahhahahahhah LOL...a ahahhahahahah... How can you take that seriously!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHHhhh...

Imagine if you were serious!!! =)
Yes! See Salty, I have a sense of humor!
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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Your screen name pretty much sums up everything you utter in these forums. You are inflamatory and are not able to have a real discussion. When your old enough to vote you might understand these issues.
Wow.. such insight. Thanks for contributing to the forum once again.
Old Oct 23, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver arrow
I suppose "Dems gonna cry like babies we bush wins by a landslide" is intellegent and insightful. You probably can't even vote.
Are you arguing that thousands of bleeding-heart-libs aren't going to get together, light candles, and cry?

I would bet $1000 that at least 100,000 will.
It would be a little hard to count, but do you really argue with the assumption?
You know yourself how emotionally unstable they are.
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Do you know the biggest problem I have with your posts? You generalize about everything. That is how all politicians, both sides, take complex issues and turn then into 10 sec sound bits for the masses to digest without having to think. Just as their are far right republicans, their far left dems. Most people believe and live somewhere in the middle. You speak like a far right republican, but I can't figure out why. Those far right leaning aren't looking out for you or your well being. Just themselves. Far lefties cry when they us a peice of paper. The rest of us live in the middle. It all comes down to, is the economy getting better and was it handle the best it could have been given the circumstances? I believe no. Was it justifiable to go to war in Iraq, no. Do we have a plan to eventually exit Iraq, no. A war without an exit stratagy before you go in is not the best idea, but we continually have to learn that lesson everytime. War is sometimes nessessary ( The first Gulf War, Afganistan) and santioned by the nations (including us) that we align ourselves with. We broke our word to the world that we will follow the rules that we wrote and agreed to. The trick to being a super power is not making other countries feel inferior, even if they are economicly. President Bush has not done that prior to 9/11 or since. Prior to 9/11 he had fewer meetings and visits with foreign leader than any President in forty years. Prior to that it was because air travel wasn't common and going via ship was how people traveled.

By the way, lets stop throwing insults at each other and have a civil discusion about the issues. I will stop if you stop.
Yes, you are right. I was being flippant and that's just my personality.
I hope you and others do find some humor in my posts, and don't take every word for it's literal meaning.

I believe that there should be a balance between left an right, that peace protestor on one side and that CEO on the other. Do you know why conservatives are afraid of Kerry? Kerry is that far left protestor! Add a trial attorney who sued health care providers and I'm scared ****less! If they had put someone like Lieberman in there he'd have my vote.

I see that Bush has blundered relations with other nations, made major errors in Iraq, and has been horrible at letting the American People know what the heck is really going on. As far as the economy goes you must admit the last 4 years would have been hard for any president. With the stock bubble bursting, corportate scandals, and 9/11, I'm actually shocked at how well the region where I live is doing. Even small enterprises are thriving once again, and that is awesome news after what we saw in 2000. These are challenging times as global competition is changing faster than we have adapted.

You know what also scares me? I see local companies filling local jobs with foreign workers on visas, because they still can't find enough technically trained people here. Those jobs Are going to go overseas, no matter if Kerry or Bush is in office. I've heard Bush talk about this problem. I've heard Kerry blame Bush for it.
I see Bush doing what he thinks is right no matter what, even if it ruffles feathers short-term (I do think it's only a short-term problem). I don't think Kerry would take that same risk. I see Bush who is a real and flawed man who has come to terms with his maker. I love him for killing Islamic extremists wherever they exists, for siding with Israel, and for sticking it out. I fear Kerry for his questionable war record, for THE WAY he participated in Anti-war activities, and they way he says he has a plan to fix everything.

You are right, though. I do generalize because these issues are all very complex, and general themes do help people decide who to vote for. Even expressing why I trust Bush more than Kerry is much more complex than the generalizations I gave above. I hear people say they don't like Bush "because democrats are better to immigrants." That's a broad stroke if I ever heard one!

Anyway.....I'll agree to watch the insults. =)
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Originally Posted by Silver arrow
My son is 9 yo and I am worried that this war will still be going when he turns 18. If it last that long they will have to draft and once again the rich and privileged kids will fly jets in the guard while yours and my sons go off to fight.
I totally understand your perspective, and would probably feel the same way if I had a son. Since my daughter is just a toddler, I think I've been more worried about domestic issues that she will face, i.e. violent crime, education, society, and so on. I don't want her to be judged or be a a disadvantage(or unfairly benefit) because of her race or gender.

It's pretty scary seeing rappers as role models and having kids performing "Lewinsky's" in elementary school. I guess the perspective gives some insight into why Muslims countries don't want any part of our "freedom."

Anyway... I ramble.......
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
I totally understand your perspective, and would probably feel the same way if I had a son. Since my daughter is just a toddler, I think I've been more worried about domestic issues that she will face, i.e. violent crime, education, society, and so on. I don't want her to be judged or be a a disadvantage(or unfairly benefit) because of her race or gender.

It's pretty scary seeing rappers as role models and having kids performing "Lewinsky's" in elementary school. I guess the perspective gives some insight into why Muslims countries don't want any part of our "freedom."

Anyway... I ramble.......

So you have a daughter and you're voting for Bush. I suppose that means that if your daughter ever needs to have an abortion when she grows up, you would prefer it to be done with an iron hanger in an alley somewhere...



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