This is a picture of our great country leader.
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Yeah, I think the one thing you're leaving out of this is this:



We might target certain people to be held on suspision of terrorism, but we dont kill innocent men, women, or children in extermination camps.. In Auchwitz II, 700 parished everyday. They'd line them up in two lines... Left is death, right is life. Children torn from their mothers... ug .



We might target certain people to be held on suspision of terrorism, but we dont kill innocent men, women, or children in extermination camps.. In Auchwitz II, 700 parished everyday. They'd line them up in two lines... Left is death, right is life. Children torn from their mothers... ug .
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Originally Posted by Mine'sRacingGDB
I think this is completely how I feel about him, and one of the best picture of the year.
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Originally Posted by Mine'sRacingGDB
I think this is completely how I feel about him, and one of the best picture of the year.
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Thanks, brucelee, for posting those powerful pictures.
I had several relatives (that I never met) killed in concentration camps.
I can't comprehend how anyone could compare Bush to Hilter.
I don't understand the Left's outright hatred of a man such as Bush.
Hiel Hitler!!
Arbeit Mach Frei
I had several relatives (that I never met) killed in concentration camps.
I can't comprehend how anyone could compare Bush to Hilter.
I don't understand the Left's outright hatred of a man such as Bush.
Hiel Hitler!!
Arbeit Mach Frei
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Originally Posted by gpatmac
That had to have been a somber, surreal day.
I toured Auschwitz and a death march camp in Germany a few years back. The reality begins to set-in as you see the operating tables with a series of drainage spouts and loose concertina wire in the quads urging jews to kill themselves via jolly roger signs. And that's just as I walked through the gates of the death march camp...
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I may be accused of being a Polyanna (ignoring all of the bad things in life), but I don't know if I could handle touring those facilities.
I change the channel whenever there's something on the news or a Discover/TLC channel about an unhealthy baby or child.
I am fully sympathetic. I don't need to be reminded of the depths people can sink to and the trevails that the German Jew suffered.
I change the channel whenever there's something on the news or a Discover/TLC channel about an unhealthy baby or child.
I am fully sympathetic. I don't need to be reminded of the depths people can sink to and the trevails that the German Jew suffered.
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Originally Posted by mmboost
Actually if you compare the social sentiments of pre-WWII Germany and current-day USA you will find many frightening similarities. Strong Right sentiments based on high moral philosophy that outwardly sought to create an inclusive society with the justification to ostricize those who disagreed. Pre-WWII Germany was teeming with political correctness,and they felt themselves to be so right that anyone who got in their way was evil,the bad guy, whether internal or external to Germany. Jews were particularly abhorrent to their society because (beyond the millenia old distrust and hatred toward Jews) they live exclusive lives with their own internal society and did not generally care to be intrinsically part of a greater Germany. This is why the average German was happy to watch their neighbors get carted away. Sure, its a hyperbolic version of what we have in the US... heck we had only a few cases of injured Middle Eastern-looking people after 9/11, instead of having internment camps like we did with the Japanese. So we've evolved on the outside. But inside, this country is hardly different in how it is overly self-confident with a might-makes-right attitude, vowing to make its policies ubiquitous, irregardless of the cost. Instead of attacking everyone with rockets and bombs (although we still don't rule that out) to further our own interests still with no regard for anyone other than ourselves happens through economics, perpetuating or fighting poverty where and when either serves us best.
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Bush doesn't want to kill our so-called enemies, he wants to get them enrolled in fricken welfare. He doesn't even want to kick out those that are here illegally, but rather give them drivers licenses! Wake the heck up!
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Originally Posted by mmboost
Actually if you compare the social sentiments of pre-WWII Germany and current-day USA you will find many frightening similarities. Strong Right sentiments based on high moral philosophy that outwardly sought to create an inclusive society with the justification to ostricize those who disagreed. Pre-WWII Germany was teeming with political correctness,and they felt themselves to be so right that anyone who got in their way was evil,the bad guy, whether internal or external to Germany. Jews were particularly abhorrent to their society because (beyond the millenia old distrust and hatred toward Jews) they live exclusive lives with their own internal society and did not generally care to be intrinsically part of a greater Germany. This is why the average German was happy to watch their neighbors get carted away. Sure, its a hyperbolic version of what we have in the US... heck we had only a few cases of injured Middle Eastern-looking people after 9/11, instead of having internment camps like we did with the Japanese. So we've evolved on the outside. But inside, this country is hardly different in how it is overly self-confident with a might-makes-right attitude, vowing to make its policies ubiquitous, irregardless of the cost. Instead of attacking everyone with rockets and bombs (although we still don't rule that out) to further our own interests still with no regard for anyone other than ourselves happens through economics, perpetuating or fighting poverty where and when either serves us best.
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I have a feeling you're the type of person that finds similarities of your life in your daily horoscope too.
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I also think this is a little extreme... but if you don't allow the 'how could you think that?' 'you're a fu**ing idiot' replies to get to you, it is quite apparent to see the general similarities.
Yes, Bush has'nt ordered the indiscriminate killing of a race, but that doesn't mean his actions are free of guilt. Making this comparison angers people who support Bush and those who are emotionally impacted by the mere mention of Hitler, and those people cannot even get past the obvious differences and therefore cannot see the similarities.
mmboost's reply pretty much sums up my thoughts- I'm surprised nobody has responded to it... must be a fair, logical comparison....
And to those who say to leave the country, you are only suggesting that the country should become even more neo-conservative, and those that disagree with our leader should not be part of the nation... Our country was built on this, and other similar freedoms. If there was not a party that disagreed with the current state of things, we would continue in the same direction, with nothing to keep things in check.
So, if we had a liberal president who you disagreed with, and you insisted on comparing them to michael moore, etc, would you see it fit that I ask YOU to leave the country... I don't think so...
We are allowed to disagree, but like it has been said before, this comparison doesn't do much for our cause, as the emotion involved prevents the actual similarites from being clear to see. It also feeds the notion (which some of you seem to believe) that all liberals think in this extremist way, and therefore cannot be trusted.
The similarities are there, I'll give you that... but I agree, this may not be the most 'tasteful' of comparisons, in many people's eyes...
Yes, Bush has'nt ordered the indiscriminate killing of a race, but that doesn't mean his actions are free of guilt. Making this comparison angers people who support Bush and those who are emotionally impacted by the mere mention of Hitler, and those people cannot even get past the obvious differences and therefore cannot see the similarities.
mmboost's reply pretty much sums up my thoughts- I'm surprised nobody has responded to it... must be a fair, logical comparison....
And to those who say to leave the country, you are only suggesting that the country should become even more neo-conservative, and those that disagree with our leader should not be part of the nation... Our country was built on this, and other similar freedoms. If there was not a party that disagreed with the current state of things, we would continue in the same direction, with nothing to keep things in check.
So, if we had a liberal president who you disagreed with, and you insisted on comparing them to michael moore, etc, would you see it fit that I ask YOU to leave the country... I don't think so...
We are allowed to disagree, but like it has been said before, this comparison doesn't do much for our cause, as the emotion involved prevents the actual similarites from being clear to see. It also feeds the notion (which some of you seem to believe) that all liberals think in this extremist way, and therefore cannot be trusted.
The similarities are there, I'll give you that... but I agree, this may not be the most 'tasteful' of comparisons, in many people's eyes...
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Oh, wait, Salty replied to mmboost while I was writing that... but as I expected, no real refutation, just the typical lighthearted jab from Salty. Is it me or does he seem to do this whenever a good point is made? It's like it's his job to degrade the opinions of those he disagrees with....
Why not try to engage in a real argument- are you afraid that his point just may stand up?
Why not try to engage in a real argument- are you afraid that his point just may stand up?
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Originally Posted by Oaf
Thanks, brucelee, for posting those powerful pictures.
I had several relatives (that I never met) killed in concentration camps.
I can't comprehend how anyone could compare Bush to Hilter.
I don't understand the Left's outright hatred of a man such as Bush.
Hiel Hitler!!
Arbeit Mach Frei
I had several relatives (that I never met) killed in concentration camps.
I can't comprehend how anyone could compare Bush to Hilter.
I don't understand the Left's outright hatred of a man such as Bush.
Hiel Hitler!!
Arbeit Mach Frei


