Obama's Hitler Youth
Nonsense, every American citizen is entitled to free health care, free college eduation, cost of living assistance and government housing. Right?
I do -- if Bush proposed this, you would call it slavery, and rightly so, because that's what it is.
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You can't be serious? So you're O.K. with being conscripted into a labor service? If you don't mind me asking have you ever worked for the government, done volunteer work or given to something "bigger than yourself"? I'm not being cynical I'm just curious. I'd go kicking and screaming if I got put into this socialist crap.
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No, I wouldn't have because I am not the sensationalist that some people are. I also am not the extremely anti-bush type like some are. I disagreed with much of what he did but I think he was doing what he thought was best for the country at the time.
You'd go kicking and screaming for 50 hours of community service? really? I guess I really never thought of it like you guys are. When I was in high school I did around 85 hours of voluntary community service for Habitat and it was an unbelievable experience, and there have been others over the years. I guess I can see where that could have been a different experience if I was forced into it, but I have been down that road as well in my youth and I still think I gained a lot from that experience also.
Yes I do believe that all persons in the US should do community service of some type.. I also believe that Military service should be more widespread than it is. I would even go as far as to say that Military service (or at least a similar civil service) should be a requirement in order run for National Office, but I making the jump into mandatory public/community service strikes me as Statism and borders on Tyranny.
You'd go kicking and screaming for 50 hours of community service? really? I guess I really never thought of it like you guys are. When I was in high school I did around 85 hours of voluntary community service for Habitat and it was an unbelievable experience, and there have been others over the years. I guess I can see where that could have been a different experience if I was forced into it, but I have been down that road as well in my youth and I still think I gained a lot from that experience also.
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Absolutely I would. My patriotism is not in question. I have served in the U.S. Army since before my 18th birthday, re-uped, went to college and got a degree (two actually) just so I could get my commission. Volunteered for duty in Iraq and Afghanistan. The operative word here for me is "volunteered". I have no problem giving my life, beit physically or just sacrificing time away from home and my family for the greater good of this nation but I want to do it on my own accord. A day my come when I say "that's enough", and I walk away from this (I don't foresee that but just in case) I'd like to think my country would be grateful for my service and not say "wait, that's not enough".
I just think I never really looked at it like you do in regards to this topic. I deal with kids just out of high school every day and the majority think that they can have whatever they want without doing a damn bit of work to get it. It's not how I was raised and it is not how I am raising my son.
I may be wrong about this, I just want to see a change in the youth of this country.
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I hope you didn't think that I was in any way questioning your patriotism, because that was definitely not my intent. I have nothing but respect for what you do and what every service member does.
I just think I never really looked at it like you do in regards to this topic. I deal with kids just out of high school every day and the majority think that they can have whatever they want without doing a damn bit of work to get it. It's not how I was raised and it is not how I am raising my son.
I may be wrong about this, I just want to see a change in the youth of this country.
I just think I never really looked at it like you do in regards to this topic. I deal with kids just out of high school every day and the majority think that they can have whatever they want without doing a damn bit of work to get it. It's not how I was raised and it is not how I am raising my son.
I may be wrong about this, I just want to see a change in the youth of this country.

Turn off the tv.
Limit video games.
Get 'em outside.
Go to a museum, park, ballet, etc.
I hope you didn't think that I was in any way questioning your patriotism, because that was definitely not my intent. I have nothing but respect for what you do and what every service member does.
I just think I never really looked at it like you do in regards to this topic. I deal with kids just out of high school every day and the majority think that they can have whatever they want without doing a damn bit of work to get it. It's not how I was raised and it is not how I am raising my son.
I may be wrong about this, I just want to see a change in the youth of this country.
I just think I never really looked at it like you do in regards to this topic. I deal with kids just out of high school every day and the majority think that they can have whatever they want without doing a damn bit of work to get it. It's not how I was raised and it is not how I am raising my son.
I may be wrong about this, I just want to see a change in the youth of this country.

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Talk to them.
Help them with their problems.
And most importantly - BE THERE FOR THEM.
Even something as simple as family dinner every night to talk about the day will bring parents and children that much closer.
Sorry. I kinda figured you were but ya never know. We need a sarcasm smiley.
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The word "socialism" is being thrown around alot lately. A few of you might want to do some research on countries that have used it and not just look up the dictionary.com definition and consider it fascist.
Also, high schools already require community service for senior to graduate. (8 hours). So I don't really see what the big deal is. I think it could be very helpful in some parts of our country where kids have nothing to do after school but get in trouble.
Also, high schools already require community service for senior to graduate. (8 hours). So I don't really see what the big deal is. I think it could be very helpful in some parts of our country where kids have nothing to do after school but get in trouble.


