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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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House adopts plan for 'volunteer' corps

The U.S. House of Representatives has approved a plan to set up a new "volunteer corps" and consider whether "a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people" should be developed.

The legislation also refers to "uniforms" that would be worn by the "volunteers" and the "need" for a "public service academy, a 4-year institution" to "focus on training" future "public sector leaders." The training, apparently, would occur at "campuses."

The vote yesterday came on H.R. 1388, which reauthorizes through 2014 the National and Community Service Act of 1990 and the Domestic Volunteer Service Act of 1973, acts that originally, among other programs, funded the AmeriCorps and the National Senior Service Corps.

It not only reauthorizes the programs, but also includes "new programs and studies" and is expected to be funded with an allocation of $6 billion over the next five years, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Many, however, are raising concerns that the program, which is intended to include 250,000 "volunteers," is the beginning of what President Obama called his "National Civilian Security Force" in a a speech last year in which he urged creating an organization as big and well-funded as the U.S. military. He has declined since then to elaborate.
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"Young Pioneer" is a more apt hyperbole than "Hitler Youth" if I were to follow your underlying theme of "Socialism," Paul.
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nicely said

i agree.
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Originally Posted by saqwarrior
"Young Pioneer" is a more apt hyperbole than "Hitler Youth" if I were to follow your underlying theme of "Socialism," Paul.
I like shock & awe.

But really, it's not that far of a stretch.

Expanded Americorps has an authoritarian feel

The bill also calls for “youth engagement zones” in which “service learning” is “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.” This updated form of voluntary community service is also to be “integrated into the science, technology, engineering and mathematics curricula” at all levels of schooling. Sounds like a government curriculum for government approved “service learning,” which is nothing less than indoctrination.
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
I like shock & awe.
I've noticed.
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
I like shock & awe.

But really, it's not that far of a stretch.

Expanded Americorps has an authoritarian feel
No it isn't that far of a stretch at all..

Of course they could call it the Spies instead..
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Worldnetdaily another great "news" site, like huffington post and newsmax!
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
Worldnetdaily another great "news" site, like huffington post and newsmax!
This amuses me: the source is suspect, so naturally, the story is suspect.

There are plenty of video clips of Barry promising to establish a mandatory "volunteer" corps in America.

Yesterday on the radio, there was a report of a federal Marshall found shot in the head out in Texas.
The CNN report said he was under investigation for stealing "government property."

Hmmm...that's a little vague. Did he steal paper clips, a car, what?

On another station, they listed the items he allegedly stole.
A few rifles(AR15s), a few pistols, and a few shotguns, which have been given to one of the Mexican cartels.
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
This amuses me: the source is suspect, so naturally, the story is suspect.

There are plenty of video clips of Barry promising to establish a mandatory "volunteer" corps in America.

Yesterday on the radio, there was a report of a federal Marshall found shot in the head out in Texas.
The CNN report said he was under investigation for stealing "government property."

Hmmm...that's a little vague. Did he steal paper clips, a car, what?

On another station, they listed the items he allegedly stole.
A few rifles(AR15s), a few pistols, and a few shotguns, which have been given to one of the Mexican cartels.
So why didn't you "naturally" get the links and story from something more reputable? Is it because the anti-Barry spin wouldn't be quite as heavy, and that's how you like it right? Or do you only read those news sources?

This is the part I especially think you like...

Many, however, are raising concerns that the program, which is intended to include 250,000 "volunteers," is the beginning of what President Obama called his "National Civilian Security Force" in a a speech last year in which he urged creating an organization as big and well-funded as the U.S. military. He has declined since then to elaborate.

So who are the "many" raising concerns? Why are they not listed here? Is it just the WorldNetDaily editor? Or the Right-Wing blogosphere? This amuses me greatly. Your source takes something Obama said in a speech a year ago and directly ties it to something the house and senate passes this year, but hey it makes the anti-obama point a little more solid than if you would leave this part out right?

I can see nothing wrong with requiring America's youth to do some community service. Maybe the youth in this country will take an interest in preserving the country instead of the entitlement attitude too many have today.
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Great, another 4 year of this of crap. Just read his two books and you should get an idea of this socialist.
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
I can see nothing wrong with requiring America's youth to do some community service. Maybe the youth in this country will take an interest in preserving the country instead of the entitlement attitude too many have today.
You can't be serious? So you're O.K. with being conscripted into a labor service? If you don't mind me asking have you ever worked for the government, done volunteer work or given to something "bigger than yourself"? I'm not being cynical I'm just curious. I'd go kicking and screaming if I got put into this socialist crap.
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
So why didn't you "naturally" get the links and story from something more reputable? Is it because the anti-Barry spin wouldn't be quite as heavy, and that's how you like it right? Or do you only read those news sources?

This is the part I especially think you like...

Many, however, are raising concerns that the program, which is intended to include 250,000 "volunteers," is the beginning of what President Obama called his "National Civilian Security Force" in a a speech last year in which he urged creating an organization as big and well-funded as the U.S. military. He has declined since then to elaborate.

So who are the "many" raising concerns? Why are they not listed here? Is it just the WorldNetDaily editor? Or the Right-Wing blogosphere? This amuses me greatly. Your source takes something Obama said in a speech a year ago and directly ties it to something the house and senate passes this year, but hey it makes the anti-obama point a little more solid than if you would leave this part out right?

I can see nothing wrong with requiring America's youth to do some community service. Maybe the youth in this country will take an interest in preserving the country instead of the entitlement attitude too many have today.
What are reputable sources?

The very same politicians that are asking for mandatory volunteer service are the politicians that created/support the entitlement attitude you speak of.



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