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You can have the M60 in the fight. If I shoot you first with a Saturday Night Special, you're still the one who's dead.
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Originally Posted by Chrisnonstop
If it's a fight between me and you, yes. I would be dead. But we're talking about countries here. So lets just say in the off chance N. Korea somehow gets a missle to the states (Of course this isn't what they want to do) and blows up one of our cities (for some unknown reason)....our retaliation would pretty much turn NK into dust.
F that, we need to remove this capability with the least possible collateral damage. If that means stealth bombers, Special Ops, I don't care... just take away the possibility that they can reach the US with them.Of course, nobody can prove that they actually detonated a nuclear fission device at all... so maybe they are just barking.
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Originally Posted by pwnx0rz
Pearl Harbor II , well Im not sure if we still have most of our navy stationed in hawaii, but we better not make the same mistake twice.
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Just a matter of time
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So since they can only kill several million people, instead of 80% of the country, it's okay to let them have WMDs that can reach us? F that, we need to remove this capability with the least possible collateral damage. If that means stealth bombers, Special Ops, I don't care... just take away the possibility that they can reach the US with them.
Of course, nobody can prove that they actually detonated a nuclear fission device at all... so maybe they are just barking.
F that, we need to remove this capability with the least possible collateral damage. If that means stealth bombers, Special Ops, I don't care... just take away the possibility that they can reach the US with them.Of course, nobody can prove that they actually detonated a nuclear fission device at all... so maybe they are just barking.
If Korea really wanted to attack the U.S. with a weapon of mass destruction they would have done it long ago. Most likely in the form of a chemical weapon. Much easier, cheaper, and more effective than attacking us with nukes. They've had chemical weapons long before the term "WMD" existed. But, just like a nuke, it would be suicide to use(if we could even trace it back to them).
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i am no history buff- but i understand every country "has their day". the U.S. days are numbered, as great as a country we may be.... look at every great country that has ever existed- ruins and historic pieces.
btw, i said invade. maybe not at this current time... but let them keep "flapping their lips" and barking and maybe one shred of evidence of malicious intent... then invade
drastic as it sounds so is my belief on my intelligence on the subject- i'm crappy at politics... interesting topic though-
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btw, i said invade. maybe not at this current time... but let them keep "flapping their lips" and barking and maybe one shred of evidence of malicious intent... then invade
drastic as it sounds so is my belief on my intelligence on the subject- i'm crappy at politics... interesting topic though-
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What I find funny is it is pretty well known that north korea is building/testing nukes that will be capable of reaching the U.S.... but what does the Dubya administration do...? Move a Ship right outside Iran in preperations of invading Iran....
I personally would try to push other countries to try to do something about it, China was all for it at first then it seemed like almost over night they jumped ship and opened trades back with N. K.(wonder if N.K. talked to china about something?)
Thing with me is Lil Kim has never placed harm on the united states, he has never said he planned on blowing up the united states, he just wants the nuke to help protect his country. I don't see enough cause to invade his country... maybe blow up some of his nuke stations, which will just push the devlopement back he will still continue to build nukes so it is only a short term fix
I personally would try to push other countries to try to do something about it, China was all for it at first then it seemed like almost over night they jumped ship and opened trades back with N. K.(wonder if N.K. talked to china about something?)
Thing with me is Lil Kim has never placed harm on the united states, he has never said he planned on blowing up the united states, he just wants the nuke to help protect his country. I don't see enough cause to invade his country... maybe blow up some of his nuke stations, which will just push the devlopement back he will still continue to build nukes so it is only a short term fix
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Originally Posted by GT35 STI
What I find funny is it is pretty well known that north korea is building/testing nukes that will be capable of reaching the U.S.... but what does the Dubya administration do...? Move a Ship right outside Iran in preperations of invading Iran....
I personally would try to push other countries to try to do something about it, China was all for it at first then it seemed like almost over night they jumped ship and opened trades back with N. K.(wonder if N.K. talked to china about something?)
Thing with me is Lil Kim has never placed harm on the united states, he has never said he planned on blowing up the united states, he just wants the nuke to help protect his country. I don't see enough cause to invade his country... maybe blow up some of his nuke stations, which will just push the devlopement back he will still continue to build nukes so it is only a short term fix
I personally would try to push other countries to try to do something about it, China was all for it at first then it seemed like almost over night they jumped ship and opened trades back with N. K.(wonder if N.K. talked to china about something?)
Thing with me is Lil Kim has never placed harm on the united states, he has never said he planned on blowing up the united states, he just wants the nuke to help protect his country. I don't see enough cause to invade his country... maybe blow up some of his nuke stations, which will just push the devlopement back he will still continue to build nukes so it is only a short term fix
Quit blaming the Chimp in Charge for Clinton's **** up.
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The only way to get rid of all threats of nuclear attack would be to make it so EVERY country on the earth was banned from having them, including us. It's rediculous that we try to enforce nuclear bans when we have enough of them to destroy the planet with the push of a button.
If you knew a bully that carried a knife around and started fights with people who he disagreed with, you'd want a knife...can you blame any of the people we admit outright that we hate for wanting nucs? I don't. I don't want them to have any...but I don't want us to have any either.
Oh, and by the way...
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/a....us/index.html
If you knew a bully that carried a knife around and started fights with people who he disagreed with, you'd want a knife...can you blame any of the people we admit outright that we hate for wanting nucs? I don't. I don't want them to have any...but I don't want us to have any either.
Oh, and by the way...
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/a....us/index.html
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The thing is, NK can't legitimately claim we are a threat to their sovereignty because we have nukes. Or does nobody realize that we have already fought a war on their soil, while possessing nukes, and didn't use them? NK is actualyl fairly capable of repelling a convential invasion at this point, especially since China would back them if another nation were the aggressor, be it the US, SK, or any other group with no love for Kim JL.
NK does not need nukes for defense- nuclear weapons are offensive weapons when you have conventional forces capable of providing for your national security. I see no reason for us to ever want to invade them, but what happens now if NK invades the south while possessing nukes? I say take them away if they won't give it up.
We are not a threat to North Korea under 2 conditions: that they cannot significantly harm us (they can't) and they stay within their own borders (so far so good). We fought a war to remove a government from power on the basis of weapons he never had, nor claimed to have, but with which he certainly would have been a danger to us. Why does Kim JL think he would be a different scenario?
NK does not need nukes for defense- nuclear weapons are offensive weapons when you have conventional forces capable of providing for your national security. I see no reason for us to ever want to invade them, but what happens now if NK invades the south while possessing nukes? I say take them away if they won't give it up.
We are not a threat to North Korea under 2 conditions: that they cannot significantly harm us (they can't) and they stay within their own borders (so far so good). We fought a war to remove a government from power on the basis of weapons he never had, nor claimed to have, but with which he certainly would have been a danger to us. Why does Kim JL think he would be a different scenario?
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Listen, stupid, you were just a pesky toddler when another president gave NK the ability to develope nukes.
Quit blaming the Chimp in Charge for Clinton's **** up.
Quit blaming the Chimp in Charge for Clinton's **** up.
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The only way to get rid of all threats of nuclear attack would be to make it so EVERY country on the earth was banned from having them, including us. It's rediculous that we try to enforce nuclear bans when we have enough of them to destroy the planet with the push of a button.
If you knew a bully that carried a knife around and started fights with people who he disagreed with, you'd want a knife...can you blame any of the people we admit outright that we hate for wanting nucs? I don't. I don't want them to have any...but I don't want us to have any either.
Oh, and by the way...
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/a....us/index.html
If you knew a bully that carried a knife around and started fights with people who he disagreed with, you'd want a knife...can you blame any of the people we admit outright that we hate for wanting nucs? I don't. I don't want them to have any...but I don't want us to have any either.
Oh, and by the way...
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/a....us/index.html
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No I don't. Do you?
Besides, nucs and personal weapons are very different and can't really be compared.
Japan doesn't even WANT nucs and they're the only country who's gotten hit by them...there should be nuclear elimination, not this game of 'well we and our allies are permitted, but anyone who doesn't like us will be crushed if they attempt to get them'. That's just plain asking for everyone who hates us to get Hbombs.
Besides, nucs and personal weapons are very different and can't really be compared.
Japan doesn't even WANT nucs and they're the only country who's gotten hit by them...there should be nuclear elimination, not this game of 'well we and our allies are permitted, but anyone who doesn't like us will be crushed if they attempt to get them'. That's just plain asking for everyone who hates us to get Hbombs.
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
Japan doesn't even WANT nucs and they're the only country who's gotten hit by them...there should be nuclear elimination, not this game of 'well we and our allies are permitted, but anyone who doesn't like us will be crushed if they attempt to get them'. That's just plain asking for everyone who hates us to get Hbombs.
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
The only way to get rid of all threats of nuclear attack would be to make it so EVERY country on the earth was banned from having them, including us. It's rediculous that we try to enforce nuclear bans when we have enough of them to destroy the planet with the push of a button.
If you knew a bully that carried a knife around and started fights with people who he disagreed with, you'd want a knife...can you blame any of the people we admit outright that we hate for wanting nucs? I don't. I don't want them to have any...but I don't want us to have any either.
Oh, and by the way...
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/a....us/index.html
If you knew a bully that carried a knife around and started fights with people who he disagreed with, you'd want a knife...can you blame any of the people we admit outright that we hate for wanting nucs? I don't. I don't want them to have any...but I don't want us to have any either.
Oh, and by the way...
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/a....us/index.html