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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Did a large number of Christians call for the harming/killing of the artist?
Did a large group of Catholic, et al, Bishops call for the harming/killing of the artist?

I didn't think so.
I don't get it. Why would Christians be concerned with what the artist did?
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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But it's still Islam.
You are not getting it.

If I was to say that all christians and christianity as a whole represents nothing my perversions and calls for child molestation (homosexual molestation may I add) would I be correct if I do that? Then I would say that Christianity and all the christians responsible for sufferings of those children...

The bottom line is, that religion of Islam does not call for violence... People do. People that are sick and twisted in their minds who are governed and controlled by even sicker and more mental people who have a lot to gain from this conflict...

That's all I gotta say here... Back to turbo's and new i-Speed drama...
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Imprezer
I don't get it. Why would Christians be concerned with what the artist did?
OMG! Why are Muslims upset about what Denmark does!?

/thread
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Did a large number of Christians call for the harming/killing of the artist?
Yes
Originally Posted by paul
Did a large group of Catholic, et al, Bishops call for the harming/killing of the artist?

Did "a large number" of Imams call for the death of the cartoonist who spurred the outrage in the islamic world?
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
OMG! Why are Muslims upset about what Denmark does!?

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Read my first reply, Grasshopper...
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Imprezer
The bottom line is, that religion of Islam does not call for violence...
I've read the Quran twice and have skimmed through some haddith a couple times here and there. There are calls for violence but they're mostly contract based, especially within the Quran. However, there are some direct calls for violence within the Hamas charter haddiths: http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/mideast/hamas.htm

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"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).
Some haddith are so weirdly written and prophetic that it's hard to understand if they're being violent or not. Some portray them with more violence than others. Good luck proving me wrong... there's thousands of pages of scripture on Islam.
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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CAIR Demands Apology From Another Radio Host
By Susan Jones
CNSNews.com Senior Editor
January 27, 2006

(CNSNews.com) - A Muslim civil liberties group is once again demanding an apology from a talk-radio host whom it accuses of insulting Islam.

This time, the man in the please-apologize spotlight is Bill Handel of KFI-AM 640 in Los Angeles.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations complains that Handel made fun of a stampede that killed hundreds of Muslims during their annual pilgrimage to Mecca.

In a Jan. 12 segment called the "Annual Stampede Report," CAIR said Handel imitated people screaming, then joked that Muslim pilgrims should use a helicopter to monitor pilgrimage traffic, just as helicopters monitor traffic on L.A. freeways.

"The deaths of hundreds of people engaged in religious observances is no laughing matter," CAIR spokeswoman Sabiha Khan said in a statement. "KFI needs to distance itself from Mr. Handel's unbelievable insensitivity by issuing a formal apology and a reprimand."

CAIR said it has been rebuffed in its efforts to contact Handel and his producer.

More than 300 people were crushed in a stampede during this year's Hajj pilgrimage in Mecca, the birthplace of the prophet Mohammed. It happened during a ritual in which pilgrims throw stones at a symbolic devil.

According to press reports from Saudi Arabia, some of the pilgrims, rushing to complete the stoning ritual before sunset, tripped over luggage and were crushed when other pilgrims pressed in from behind them.

This was not an isolated incident. The annual pilgrimage, which brings millions of people to Mecca, saw more than 1,400 people killed in a stampede in 1990; and 244 killed in Feb. 2004.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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Like I said, its a sensative subject.
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Wow... France and Germany are re-running the cartoons to prove a point:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe....ap/index.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4670370.stm

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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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The west is damned if we do and damned if we don't. If you're white and you speak your mind expect to be berated by some sort of political action group that does not want you exercising your first amendment rights if it means having a laugh at their expense or is in opposition to their doctrine. Expect them to try to shame you for your beliefs and thereby attempt to prevent you from speaking your mind again in opposition to them in the future.
Expect groups of offended people overseas to take up arms against you. They have no idea what freedom is and so any manifestation of it that may in some way pertain to them will be viewed as an attack on their beliefs and way of life. Its perfectly ok for them to ridicule your beliefs but not ok for you to do the same, if you happen to be white and Christian. Especially if your a white Christian in America.

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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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I'm brown and even I know that. Whats new? Business as usual.
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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We brown people are so happy to give up our rights it seems. We'll happily disarm and vote for a police state. Please protect us Police we'll say we don't trust ourselves to protect ourselves!.....when your finished beating and shooting us, take your time. Buy our votes and addict us on social welfare. More please. We'll make sure and ridicule other brown people that step out of line. We'll go out of our way to blame white people nowadays for every bad thing that happens to us now and for the last few hundred years, you can count on us!
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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I'm ranting I know. I'm just fed up with the double standard here and abroad.
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Wow... France and Germany are re-running the cartoons to prove a point:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe....ap/index.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4670370.stm
Awesome. Free speech is and should be the strongest ideal within a democratic nation.
Old Feb 1, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dub2w
Awesome. Free speech is and should be the strongest ideal within a democratic nation.
Yeah France just went up a bit in my book!



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