Mayor Ownage is fun!
05-13-2005, 02:07 PM
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Mayor Ownage is fun!
Originally Posted by Seattle Post
Spokane Mayor Jim West, who championed an anti-gay agenda during his tenure as one of the most powerful Republicans in the Legislature, yesterday admitted to using the trappings of his current office to entice what he thought was a young adult man but denied allegations that he molested two young boys more than 20 years ago.
West confirmed to The Spokesman-Review of Spokane that he offered gifts, favors and a City Hall internship during Internet chats with a man he believed was 18. The online pen pal was actually a forensic computer expert working for the newspaper. After the story hit the newsstands yesterday, West sent city staffers a remorseful e-mail.
"I want to sincerely apologize to you personally for the shame I have brought to the Mayor's office and the city," West wrote. "I stumbled and let you down."
In more than 20 years in the Legislature, West had initiated legislation to outlaw sexual contact between consenting teenagers; supported a bill that would have barred gays and lesbians from working for schools,day care centers and some state agencies; voted to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman; and, as Senate majority leader, allowed a bill that would ban discrimination against gays and lesbians to die in committee without a hearing.
As Spokane mayor, West threatened to veto a measure extending benefits to domestic partners of city employees
Concerning his sexual orientation, West told the Spokane paper, "I wouldn't characterize me as 'gay,' " but didn't distance himself from the term "bisexual."
"Its just that the openly gay guys are a little over the top for me. I dont really like the in-your-face attitude some guys have. And the massive political agenda either. I say live and let live. Most gay guys turn me off, too."
West confirmed to The Spokesman-Review of Spokane that he offered gifts, favors and a City Hall internship during Internet chats with a man he believed was 18. The online pen pal was actually a forensic computer expert working for the newspaper. After the story hit the newsstands yesterday, West sent city staffers a remorseful e-mail.
"I want to sincerely apologize to you personally for the shame I have brought to the Mayor's office and the city," West wrote. "I stumbled and let you down."
In more than 20 years in the Legislature, West had initiated legislation to outlaw sexual contact between consenting teenagers; supported a bill that would have barred gays and lesbians from working for schools,day care centers and some state agencies; voted to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman; and, as Senate majority leader, allowed a bill that would ban discrimination against gays and lesbians to die in committee without a hearing.
As Spokane mayor, West threatened to veto a measure extending benefits to domestic partners of city employees
Concerning his sexual orientation, West told the Spokane paper, "I wouldn't characterize me as 'gay,' " but didn't distance himself from the term "bisexual."
"Its just that the openly gay guys are a little over the top for me. I dont really like the in-your-face attitude some guys have. And the massive political agenda either. I say live and let live. Most gay guys turn me off, too."
He said West "must have kept his personal life separate from his political life." If West is gay, Honeyford said, he would be at odds with GOP values.
"For the Republican mainstream I would say, yes, probably it would be incompatible."
"For the Republican mainstream I would say, yes, probably it would be incompatible."
05-14-2005, 09:10 AM
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That's not a little hypocritical?
Trying to take away rights to a class of people when he secretly is one?
Trying to take away rights to a class of people when he secretly is one?
05-15-2005, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ericdared81
That's not a little hypocritical?
Trying to take away rights to a class of people when he secretly is one?
Trying to take away rights to a class of people when he secretly is one?
Many gays aren't for gay marriage.... maybe it's the same type of thing.
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Originally Posted by helladumb (pre-edit)
Maybe he knows it just isn't right to screw people in the bumb? Who cares, really?
05-16-2005, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
You mean extend "special" rights to a class of people, right? Maybe he doesn't approve of the lifestyle even though he is "bisexual."
Many gays aren't for gay marriage.... maybe it's the same type of thing.
Many gays aren't for gay marriage.... maybe it's the same type of thing.
05-16-2005, 10:50 AM
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I'm sure some of Hella's "best friends" are gay. :rotfl:
"i'm not prejudiced, some of my "best friends" are black"
Riiiight
"i'm not prejudiced, some of my "best friends" are black"
Riiiight
05-16-2005, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Like I said...
Originally Posted by scoobsport98
Who cares? This is hypocrisy at it's finest... if you can't see it, you are... well, ...blind.
...like I said
05-16-2005, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
I'm sure some of Hella's "best friends" are gay. :rotfl:
"i'm not prejudiced, some of my "best friends" are black"
Riiiight
"i'm not prejudiced, some of my "best friends" are black"
Riiiight
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Ummm hey... hello... hey... wake up.
Why do you think many gay people are against gay marriage?
Why do you think many gay people are against gay marriage?
Ask yourself that question-
"many gay people are against gay marriage????"
where did you get that information, besides you saying it?
Maybe more appropriately-
Conservative homos who align themselves with every GOP viewpoint (including gay marriage) don't think for themselves, and could be called hypocrites for their political alignment and abandonment of personal values.
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Ummm hey... hello... hey... wake up.
Why do you think many gay people are against gay marriage?
Why do you think many gay people are against gay marriage?
I don't think any of them are against it...except maybe externally in order to appease other people. And...that's being...umm...uh...hypocritical.
05-17-2005, 08:50 AM
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Is it hypocrytical for someone who has sex with his siblings to be against inter-sibling marriage?
That's what I thought. Wake up man!
That's what I thought. Wake up man!
05-17-2005, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Is it hypocrytical for someone who has sex with his siblings to be against inter-sibling marriage?
That's what I thought. Wake up man!
That's what I thought. Wake up man!
Yes, that's hypocritical. You wake up.
It seems to me that you're saying 'Is it hypocritical for someone who is gay to not be pro-gay-marriage?'. And you're right, that's not hypocritical. But that's not the case here. This is someone being openly AGAINST homosexual marriage while being a homosexual. That is hypocritical. Hell, it's not even hypocritical to not care about the marriage part and be gay. But, again, he's openly against it so he is hypocritical.
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