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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Made in U.S.A.

I bought something made in the U.S.A. and it arrived yesterday.

Just thought you should know.

I can't help but wonder if it was processed by an illegal.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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I bought something made in the U.S.A. and it arrived yesterday.

Just thought you should know.

I can't help but wonder if it was processed by an illegal.
Made in the USA with parts from Taiwan? Mexico?
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Made in U.S.A. items should have even finer print underneath that say "assembled".... because most of your "Made in U.S.A." items are actually assembled here from parts that are actually manufactured in other countries. The amount of raw goods actually manufactured in the US is slim to none.
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Originally Posted by spedmunki
Made in U.S.A. items should have even finer print underneath that say "assembled".... because most of your "Made in U.S.A." items are actually assembled here from parts that are actually manufactured in other countries. The amount of raw goods actually manufactured in the US is slim to none.

Really? Huh...


http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/madeusa.htm


Originally Posted by FTC
What is the standard for a product to be called Made in USA without qualification?

For a product to be called Made in USA, or claimed to be of domestic origin without qualifications or limits on the claim, the product must be "all or virtually all" made in the U.S. The term "United States," as referred to in the Enforcement Policy Statement, includes the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the U.S. territories and possessions.

What does "all or virtually all" mean?

"All or virtually all" means that all significant parts and processing that go into the product must be of U.S. origin. That is, the product should contain no — or negligible — foreign content.
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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They were water skis made by Nash.... yeah.. that makes 2 "made in USA" purchases in the last 24 months.
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i wanted to try spouting lies for once.....and ya know what hella...its fun!
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They were water skis made by Nash.... yeah.. that makes 2 "made in USA" purchases in the last 24 months.
My liberal azz has made more
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Our country is wealthy in part because we let other people make chump change pulling levers in factories while we go into business schools and take the other 75% of the profits from the business cycle of those goods. This is only unacceptable when we knowingly allow those workers to live in conditions we would not allow our lowest income levels to exist under.
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Our country is wealthy in part because we let other people make chump change pulling levers in factories while we go into business schools and take the other 75% of the profits from the business cycle of those goods. This is only unacceptable when we knowingly allow those workers to live in conditions we would not allow our lowest income levels to exist under.
But now most of our top schools are filled with foreign students, and other countries are surpassing the U.S. with their own "management-ready" workforce. First goes the manufacturing, and then follows the management.

Didn't seem plausible when it all started, but now we're staring down the barrel of a gun... one made in China.
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But now most of our top schools are filled with foreign students, and other countries are surpassing the U.S. with their own "management-ready" workforce. First goes the manufacturing, and then follows the management.

Didn't seem plausible when it all started, but now we're staring down the barrel of a gun... one made in China.
Welcome to Capitalism. If foreign students can outcompete with ours, they win. Fix the problem, nto teh symptoms.
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Welcome to Capitalism. If foreign students can outcompete with ours, they win. Fix the problem, nto teh symptoms.
Global capitalism needs to be balanced with logical legislation and a long-term view, which the US lacks.

Much of U.S. executives have succumed to an irrational bias and "outsourcing group-think" where they think that outsourcing is always better as long as it doesn't impact customer service. First companies put all eggs into Mexico, and now the tendency is Asia (mostly China)... manufacturing specifically. For the core workforce and business operations, it will be India. The real reason for it is money but wages in India will match that of the US likely well in advance of 2020.
"Skilled labor" is the excuse, but moving the jobs to pursue a short-term labor cost savings is actually what will really cause a shortage of labor.

WE ARE NOW IN 2007, and WE COULD SUPPLY THAT LABOR WITH OUR CURRENT RESOURCES. EXECUTIVES ARE RESPONSIBLE for what this is going to do to our economy and our country. If you move tech jobs out of the US now, do you think we will have any reason to provide a trained workforce? Nope. Even an imported workforce creates tax revenue, but an outsourced one does not.

Remember the U.S. is a rich nation because we have jobs now.

First, I suggest that when a U.S. corporation has more than 30% of its employees abroad, the CEO and executives must move to the most impoverished region of which it employs.

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Originally Posted by HellaDumb

First, I suggest that when a U.S. corporation has more than 30% of its employees abroad, the CEO and executives must move to the most impoverished region of which it employs.


I like that idea a lot. I would suggest there's a big lack of emphasis on education in the US right now though, and that's part of the problem as someone else mentioned. So I'd add to your idea that the children of people making money off of outsourcing jobs must send their children to the school in the area where the jobs are outsourced to...come to think of it, if CEOs were forced to send their children to the crappiest school out of all the schools their employee's children went to, there'd be no problem getting money for schools would there...
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Global capitalism needs to be balanced with logical legislation and a long-term view, which the US lacks.

Much of U.S. executives have succumed to an irrational bias and "outsourcing group-think" where they think that outsourcing is always better as long as it doesn't impact customer service. First companies put all eggs into Mexico, and now the tendency is Asia (mostly China)... manufacturing specifically. For the core workforce and business operations, it will be India. The real reason for it is money but wages in India will match that of the US likely well in advance of 2020.
"Skilled labor" is the excuse, but moving the jobs to pursue a short-term labor cost savings is actually what will really cause a shortage of labor.

WE ARE NOW IN 2007, and WE COULD SUPPLY THAT LABOR WITH OUR CURRENT RESOURCES. EXECUTIVES ARE RESPONSIBLE for what this is going to do to our economy and our country. If you move tech jobs out of the US now, do you think we will have any reason to provide a trained workforce? Nope. Even an imported workforce creates tax revenue, but an outsourced one does not.

Remember the U.S. is a rich nation because we have jobs now.

First, I suggest that when a U.S. corporation has more than 30% of its employees abroad, the CEO and executives must move to the most impoverished region of which it employs.
You totally dismissed the way the world works. We compete, or we die. We can't legislate fairness into the rest of the world.
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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You totally dismissed the way the world works. We compete, or we die. We can't legislate fairness into the rest of the world.
Did I say or imply any legislation on non-US companies?
The problem is with OUR executives and government. Capitalism is the best system when checked with healthy limitations. Our own governement hasn't even figured out how the world works.



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