Salty

iTrader: (14)

Speak for yourself:

lojasmo

Al-timimi was convicted for inciting terrorism. So how am I wrong?

Wearing burqas is not similar to what al-timimi did. Religious garb is protected by the first ammendment, clearly.

Obviously, I am opposed to the type of legislation enacted as refered to by this thread, but Different countries have different laws.

scoobsport98

iTrader: (5)

I believe you were making the generalizations. I simply said they weren't true, and not every civil rights activist would hold civil rights above protecting our country, given certain circumstances. Get real. People aren't that stupid, as much as it seems you'd like them to be.

scoobsport98

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Now, if this legislation would make it possible to deport or lock up those who dare to wear islamic garb, I'd feel differently. I may be wrong, but it is my impression that action would be taken only where there was convincing proof of a violent anti-american threat.

Salty

iTrader: (14)

Oh I see... I thought you were talking about the new UK link I posted seeing how you quoted it in post #7, not the link in the first post. Sloppy quoting I suppose...

I agree. I was just trying to make my point on deportation and how freedom of religion or speech does not apply under the given circumstances not pertaining to religious garb. I think the anti-burqa portion of Italy’s "anti-terror package" is the wrong answer.

scoobsport98

iTrader: (5)

Oh snap. I guess I didn't read the link thoroughly... With the 'askmuslims.com' thread in mind, that could possibly be the single WORST way of dealing with the problem.

If I was a peaceful muslim that got deported from a 'free' country because I wouldn't take a piece of cloth off my head, I just may go back home and join a few friends and who are planning an elaborate attack against that country...

This is an extremely important, extremely urgent problem, however, it also extremely delicate. In order to move in the direction we'd like (to reduce threats and future terrorists), everyone's feelings must be considered. Unless we want to get genocidal and wipe out a certain ethnicity just to be safe, we have to be extremely careful that our actions against terror don't compromise the freedom or rights of peaceful muslims to the point where we are breeding anti-american sentiment here at home and eroding the foundations which this country was built on. If we deport everyone and segregate by religion, then prepare for WWIII in the near future. If we aren't careful, our actions may have the complete opposite effect than what we intended.

... but as always ... easier said than done -- but at least it's been said.

lojasmo

I was specifically addressing why it is relatively more okay in europe than it is here.

Salty

iTrader: (14)

I see, while quoting the 'U.K. Institutes New Deportation Measures' story in post #7. Good call seeing how there wasn't any mention of garbs or burqas in that particular story. In doing so you weren't being specific as you thought.

Seems you sloppily quoted one thing and then reverted back to the original story in the initial post by IS2scooby. Either that or you did not read the 'U.K. Institutes New Deportation Measures' story whatsoever. How very sloppy of you.

IS2Scooby

iTrader: (3)

Eject suspected terrorists out of this country with enough force for them to bounce on their turbans is what I say.
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lojasmo

No, I was answering the question asked in YOUR POST. I didn't read the article because I'm a lazy schmuck.

I do agree, though, that the actions taken by the U.K. are reasonable. I also believe that they would be found to be constitutional. HOWEVER, we would just throw those folks in Gitmo, which in my opinion, is not.

Salty

iTrader: (14)

If you say so. I realize this now seeing how you reverted back to garbs but didn't then seeing how you sloppily quoted the other story.

Listen, all I’m saying practice what you preach by not being sloppy, mmmkay?

lojasmo

Bah, humbug.

IS2Scooby

iTrader: (3)

Hmmmm... "Tube Warning"
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Why is France so damn worried? The terrorists love their lack of motivation and cowardice in reference to radicals and all types of violent conflict.