Italy ain't messin' around (and France & UK now)
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Originally Posted by scoobsport98
Not everyone fits the mold you would like them for the sake of your argument, which is flimsy at best.
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but if you ask any american 'civil rights activist' how they would deal with those posing an immenent threat on our own soil, I'm sure they would also say that action should be taken
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Originally Posted by Salty
Wow. Where do you get these third grade social studies answers?
Based on which amendment? Free speech nor freedom of religion does not apply under these circumstances. Google Professor Ali Al-Timimi and get back to me on how you're clearly wrong. His crime was not any act of terrorism or violence. We put him away for life recently because his jaws wouldn't stop flapping.
Based on which amendment? Free speech nor freedom of religion does not apply under these circumstances. Google Professor Ali Al-Timimi and get back to me on how you're clearly wrong. His crime was not any act of terrorism or violence. We put him away for life recently because his jaws wouldn't stop flapping.
Wearing burqas is not similar to what al-timimi did. Religious garb is protected by the first ammendment, clearly.
Obviously, I am opposed to the type of legislation enacted as refered to by this thread, but Different countries have different laws.
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Originally Posted by Salty
Speak for yourself:
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
Wearing burqas is not similar to what al-timimi did. Religious garb is protected by the first ammendment, clearly.
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
Al-timimi was convicted for inciting terrorism. So how am I wrong?
Wearing burqas is not similar to what al-timimi did. Religious garb is protected by the first ammendment, clearly.
Obviously, I am opposed to the type of legislation enacted as refered to by this thread, but Different countries have different laws.
Wearing burqas is not similar to what al-timimi did. Religious garb is protected by the first ammendment, clearly.
Obviously, I am opposed to the type of legislation enacted as refered to by this thread, but Different countries have different laws.
I agree. I was just trying to make my point on deportation and how freedom of religion or speech does not apply under the given circumstances not pertaining to religious garb. I think the anti-burqa portion of Italy’s "anti-terror package" is the wrong answer.
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Originally Posted by Salty
Oh I see... I thought you were talking about the new UK link I posted seeing how you quoted it in post #7, not the link in the first post. Sloppy quoting I suppose...
I agree. I was just trying to make my point on deportation and how freedom of religion or speech does not apply under the given circumstances not pertaining to religious garb. I think the anti-burqa portion of Italy’s "anti-terror package" is the wrong answer.
I agree. I was just trying to make my point on deportation and how freedom of religion or speech does not apply under the given circumstances not pertaining to religious garb. I think the anti-burqa portion of Italy’s "anti-terror package" is the wrong answer.
If I was a peaceful muslim that got deported from a 'free' country because I wouldn't take a piece of cloth off my head, I just may go back home and join a few friends and who are planning an elaborate attack against that country...
This is an extremely important, extremely urgent problem, however, it also extremely delicate. In order to move in the direction we'd like (to reduce threats and future terrorists), everyone's feelings must be considered. Unless we want to get genocidal and wipe out a certain ethnicity just to be safe, we have to be extremely careful that our actions against terror don't compromise the freedom or rights of peaceful muslims to the point where we are breeding anti-american sentiment here at home and eroding the foundations which this country was built on. If we deport everyone and segregate by religion, then prepare for WWIII in the near future. If we aren't careful, our actions may have the complete opposite effect than what we intended.
... but as always ... easier said than done -- but at least it's been said.
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Originally Posted by Salty
Oh I see... I thought you were talking about the new UK link I posted seeing how you quoted it in post #7, not the link in the first post. Sloppy quoting I suppose...
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I see, while quoting the 'U.K. Institutes New Deportation Measures' story in post #7. Good call seeing how there wasn't any mention of garbs or burqas in that particular story. In doing so you weren't being specific as you thought.
Seems you sloppily quoted one thing and then reverted back to the original story in the initial post by IS2scooby. Either that or you did not read the 'U.K. Institutes New Deportation Measures' story whatsoever. How very sloppy of you.
Seems you sloppily quoted one thing and then reverted back to the original story in the initial post by IS2scooby. Either that or you did not read the 'U.K. Institutes New Deportation Measures' story whatsoever. How very sloppy of you.
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Eject suspected terrorists out of this country with enough force for them to bounce on their turbans is what I say.
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Originally Posted by Salty
I see, while quoting the 'U.K. Institutes New Deportation Measures' story in post #7. Good call seeing how there wasn't any mention of garbs or burqas in that particular story. In doing so you weren't being specific as you thought.
Seems you sloppily quoted one thing and then reverted back to the original story in the initial post by IS2scooby. Either that or you did not read the 'U.K. Institutes New Deportation Measures' story whatsoever. How very sloppy of you.
Seems you sloppily quoted one thing and then reverted back to the original story in the initial post by IS2scooby. Either that or you did not read the 'U.K. Institutes New Deportation Measures' story whatsoever. How very sloppy of you.
I do agree, though, that the actions taken by the U.K. are reasonable. I also believe that they would be found to be constitutional. HOWEVER, we would just throw those folks in Gitmo, which in my opinion, is not.
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
No, I was answering the question asked in YOUR POST.
Listen, all I’m saying practice what you preach by not being sloppy, mmmkay?
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