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Old 11-16-2009, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
No "horrors", but I recall Bush giving an unsolicited shoulder massage to the German Chancellor and getting to first base with the Saudi King.
haha.. the back rub thing was awesome. there is one thing to be disrespectful and then a complete new level of crazy like this one.
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Old 11-16-2009, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
No "horrors", but I recall Bush giving an unsolicited shoulder massage to the German Chancellor and getting to first base with the Saudi King.
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
As for the bowing thing, I'll chalk that up to plane not knowing any better. Maybe he didn't want the emperor to feel so short?
There is nothing wrong with the bow...other than uptight America thinking that he is surrendering to the Emperor of Japan.

The depth of his bow is showing his respect to an elder, and gratitude to his host. People seriously need to get a grip over this.
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Why the hell does he NOT SALUTE/Cross his heart when United States Ceremonies go on, yet he bows to the saudi's and japan?

I think he makes us look weak, and I think he does it because everyone knows we're screwed when it comes to the economy and he's tryin to kiss some toes. That is outrageous.

What the hell are the democrats thinking in BRINGING the 9/11 terrorist 2 blocks down from the spot he made a hole in for a trial?

Douchebaggery for douching America. The dude should be thrown out for such communistic/anti-american tactics =p
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by iLoqin
Why the hell does he NOT SALUTE/Cross his heart when United States Ceremonies go on, yet he bows to the saudi's and japan?

I think he makes us look weak, and I think he does it because everyone knows we're screwed when it comes to the economy and he's tryin to kiss some toes. That is outrageous.

What the hell are the democrats thinking in BRINGING the 9/11 terrorist 2 blocks down from the spot he made a hole in for a trial?

Douchebaggery for douching America. The dude should be thrown out for such communistic/anti-american tactics =p
I really shouldn't be doing this, it's not nice to feed the trolls. However, here we go.

There is no information on the lack of a salute, so it's really hard to speculate the reasoning behind it. Please read the post RIGHT ABOVE YOURS for information regarding bowing to Japanese political figures.

You may think it makes us look week, but as we all know, you have no political training or knowledge. Greeting foreign political figures in their traditional methods and showing general respect for them makes us look less arrogant, not week. It makes people actually want to work with us. Would you rather we go around pissing off every country like Bush was doing?

As for the trials. Do you really think that they are going to get a fair trial in the civilian court system? Hell, people born in the US don't even get fair trials. Do you REALLY think they are going to get a fair trial? They are being put to death, plain and simple.

Please look up the word "communism" before using it in a sentence, unless the sentence is "I don't know what communism really is." Please also quit parroting everything you hear other right-wingers say.

If you want to prove that you aren't merely parroting what you've heard, feel free to explain why it'll be bad to put the terrorists on trial in NYC, and how Obama's policies are communist.
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by VRT MBasile
I really shouldn't be doing this, it's not nice to feed the trolls. However, here we go.

There is no information on the lack of a salute, so it's really hard to speculate the reasoning behind it. Please read the post RIGHT ABOVE YOURS for information regarding bowing to Japanese political figures.

You may think it makes us look week, but as we all know, you have no political training or knowledge. Greeting foreign political figures in their traditional methods and showing general respect for them makes us look less arrogant, not week. It makes people actually want to work with us. Would you rather we go around pissing off every country like Bush was doing?

As for the trials. Do you really think that they are going to get a fair trial in the civilian court system? Hell, people born in the US don't even get fair trials. Do you REALLY think they are going to get a fair trial? They are being put to death, plain and simple.

Please look up the word "communism" before using it in a sentence, unless the sentence is "I don't know what communism really is." Please also quit parroting everything you hear other right-wingers say.

If you want to prove that you aren't merely parroting what you've heard, feel free to explain why it'll be bad to put the terrorists on trial in NYC, and how Obama's policies are communist.
We picked him up on sand in another country, he's tried in the area he attacked? He admits and boasts about his knowledge and the collapse of the towers. EVERYONE in America would rather see blood and a death sentence, where would we find 12 people who could give him an actual FAIR and clean sentence? Since he is not a citizen he has not be read the miranda code. He commited an act of terror on foreign soil, he should tried in a military tribunal and hanged for all I care.

I feel like Obama is putting the CIA on trial for this, obviously taken in, the CIA will give enough info to convict but not give out their tactics that make them the CIA.

10%+ and growing are americans on unemployment, form of distributing wealth. Making all of these failing companies (including the FDICed insured companies and bailing them out) with an unlimited amount of cash. Putting a foothold on basically everything is communist. Healthcare is the same idea. The more government controls, the more freedom is lost. The more we strive away from the raw elements of the constitution the more communistic/socialistic we are and more freedom is lost. Making our children and grandchildren pick up the tab is not freedom, that's enslavement.
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by VRT MBasile

If you want to prove that you aren't merely parroting what you've heard, feel free to explain why it'll be bad to put the terrorists on trial in NYC, and how Obama's policies are communist.
Only a Google page away. Although this is about 6 months old, it has some very good points.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Top-7-Marxis...By-Obama-Today

Top 7 Marxist Communist Policies Being Implemented By Obama Today
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Throughout history Communist leaders have seized power by promoting themselves as populists, and often completely hiding their own ideology. Indeed in a poll taken after Communist Hugo Chavez' first election victory in Venezuela, only 3% of the electors believed Chavez to be a Socialist, let alone a Communist. Currently 32% of Americans believe Obama to be a Socialist.

The initial stages of Communization of a country invariably begin with seven basic steps:

Seizing Control Over The Free Flow Of The Nation's Money

Obama has stated that he wants to convert the stock the US government now owns in the nation's banks from preferred stock, which is the case currently, to common stock. This modification in type of stock may seem irrelevant at first glance, but under further analysis it is the single greatest communist policy the US government has ever adopted: It means that the federal government will control all of the currently publicly traded major banks and financial institutions in the nation which are currently in the hands of individual shareholders. Not only will the current shareholders' rights be trampled, but the control of the nation's flow of money is the first keystone of communism.

Stripping Capitalists Of Their Assets

According to US bankruptcy code, secured creditors such as the ones who have outstanding debt against Chrysler and GM, have to be paid before unsecured creditors. That is the law. Obama has ignored this law, and seized the vast majority (89% in GM's case) of all "asset value" of the automakers and taken direct control or given it away for free to the unions. Karl Marx's theses were all based on the workers owning the means of production, and thus communism takes hold in America.

Changing The Structures Of Government To Suit

Obama has given the GOP until October to approve his health care plan which many experts have shown, would be as socialized as Cuba's. If the Republican Party does not meet his demands, the Democratic Party will simply change the very rules of the United States Senate to pass their legislation through simple majority, instead of the 60% which has been required by the Senate through history. Changing legislation to suit the leader is another common tactic of communist leaders from Chavez to Castro.

Taking Advantage Of A Crisis To Impose Communism

Obama's Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel published a book entitled The Plan which would require (yes, require) young Americans regardless of their political stripe to serve in a direct copy of Hugo Chavez' red-beret local militias. The Plan also promotes massive taxpayer funded programs as universally free university tuition and health care as well as a tax reform to ensure that the middle and upper classes are crushed by the enormous new government expenditures. Obama has already admitted such a "soak anyone making over $250,000/year" punitive tax policy. Emanuel is famous for his quote "you never want a serious crisis to go to waste…(it’s) an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before," which is the prototypical process whereby communists seize power, witness Lenin, Mao, Castro, Tito, et al.

Controlling Higher Education

Obama has already launched legislation to remove private lenders from student loans which would now all be provided by the federal government directly, so that it could choose in a totalitarian manner who receives the loans and who doesn't. Many educational institutions are up in arms over this legislation as it essentially shifts admissions policy from the colleges and universities to the federal government. Control of higher education as in Obama's Pell Grant entitlement is an universal characteristic of communism to ensure that the young are properly ideologically indoctrinated.

Punishing Residential Property Owners

Obama's enormous mortgage bailout legislation is little more than a full blown entitlement program. The plan forces the 92 percent of responsible home owners to heavily subsidize the irresponsible "ARM-ATM" mortgage holders who didn't read their ARM mortgages and used their home equity like ATMs. These taxes would be so overwhelming that many of the "responsible" majority of mortgage holders could lose their homes. The punishment leading to the elimination of property owners in favor of the state is a fundamental tenet of Marxism, as Karl wrote "the middle-class owner of property: This person must indeed, be swept out of the way, and made impossible."

Demolishing The Economy To Replace It With State Control

Obama has:

* Handicapped American multinationals by denying them tax deferral, placing them at an enormous competitive disadvantage against corporations based anywhere else.
* Launched entitlement programs which punish innovation and dry up funds for entrepreneurial start ups.
* Stopped the Treasury from implementing any real recovery plans, discouraging private capital flow into the financial sector.
* Stated "we have to spread the wealth around, we have to redistribute the wealth of this country through taxation," which is a paraphrasing of Marx's "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
* Declared a "War On Business" as shown by his legislation that pharmaceutical corporations pay high rebate fees to Medicaid and promoting the importation of foreign drugs which could include low potency or outright counterfeit drugs into the nation. The financial outlook for US pharmaceutical companies has been decimated.
* Placed nearly two thirds of a trillion dollars into a health reform reserve fund, which is the tip of the iceberg in the expectations of the cost of fully socialized medicine in America. USA Today has stated that every household in the United States would be on the hook for over half a million dollars.

All of these policies represent time-honored Communist policies specifically designed to devastate the free market economy as well as impoverish and punish the upper and middle classes leading to their elimination so that the Communist "Dictatorship Of The Proletariat" can be introduced. It is important to note that in each and every historical instance Communism has been introduced into democratic countries and they were all swiftly changed to totalitarian dictatorships of a single leader benefiting from a "Cult Of Personality."

Policies virtually identical to these were implemented by:

Vladimir Ilyich Lenin in 1917 Russia
Josip Broz Tito in 1945 Yugoslavia
Mao Zedong (Tse-tung) in 1949 China
Fidel Castro in 1959 Cuba
Hugo Chavez in 1999 Venezuela

and now they are being implemented by

Barack Hussein Obama in 2009 United States of America.
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Originally Posted by RedStage
There is nothing wrong with the bow...other than uptight America thinking that he is surrendering to the Emperor of Japan.

The depth of his bow is showing his respect to an elder, and gratitude to his host. People seriously need to get a grip over this.
Blame it on Fox news...
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:25 AM
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naaa dont spit in his face .... but a nice headshot would be great!
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Originally Posted by Mr. Xevious
I believe its the fact that other foreign dignitaries shake their hand and do not bow.

maybe he just loves to bow to people? (SEE WHAT I DID THERE????)
IMO he should have shook the Emperor's hand instead of bowing. I don't believe the bow was returned anyways. And besides, he did it wrong. You don't bow AND shake the hand. It's either one or the other.
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:08 PM
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I guess bowing is the same as us giving them a rap CD? lol when they visited the president, bahaha.
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:21 PM
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maybe "one nation under GOD..." may have something to do with it?
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:41 PM
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bowing is just as common as waving your hand(in asia), i really dont understand why this was on headlines -,.-
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bowing is just as common as waving your hand(in asia), i really dont understand why this was on headlines -,.-
At least it wasn't Bush who did it, it would have been grounds for another protest calling for his impeachment.

Seems like some of the Obama love affair has died off.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:03 PM
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Getting upset over something like this is silly. I can think of several things Obama has done that are far more worthy to be angry about, like ordering more drone strikes that kill 49 civilians for every 1 terrorist in half a year than Bush did in the last 3 years of his final term.
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