sloppyjoe

Kerry: Raise gov spending, payoff the deficit, lower taxes... and anything else you want to hear?

Bush: Doh!(I know the effert in Iraq is not going very well, but is that not to be expected in war? I think the enemy was smart to retreat early [we expected a lot more resistance and support for Saddam] and wait till we pull a huge number of troops, and then start the fighting again. It was definitly to their advantage. If that was even their plan? I think we need more troops back in Iraq

Hey hella, I am on your side. I would take a better leader over a better debater any day.

Well, I have to go now. I am getting botox injections in my face and then I am going to get a can-tan to cover it up. It is going to be a long day.

Oh, and whoever brought up the crack-4-votes, that was a liberal tactic. And they are the ones screaming voter fraud and rallying the lawyers; now thats funny.

wisdom: The man who worries about being cheated constantly is usually the cheater... etc.

Silver arrow

Scumb bag? All I have to say is ENRON and Haliburton. Oh, you weren't talking about business ethics. Bushes middle class tax cut was a lie too. You must be filthy rich to support bush like you do. Oh and by the way I'm a medic. I'm the one who patches up all the guys looking for WMD after they get a bullet to the head. War is much easier from your recliner isn't it? You are the scumb bag. Prove me wrong, go sign up with the army or marine recruiter today. It's easy to talk about how right it is, pick up a rifle or shut your trap. Reinvent the middle east, you are the one who needs to read your history. Ask the Russians how it went in Afganistan. Ask the crusaders. Ask the Isrealies how that peace plan is coming. Saddam was a ruthless leader but didn't have the ability to strike at us, and more than likely no desire. He wanted to stay in power. You want to know where the terrorists are coming from. Muslim countries in Africa. Maybe we should invade Africa. Oh I forgot the one about nations following us because they "Have to". You really didn't say that did you? I've lived overseas for about 6 years in my career, and you obviously have much experience with foriegn cultures. So please explain to all of us how they Have To" follow us.

Silver arrow

I just got done reading all of your posts, you obviously believe every word uttered from Rush Limbaughs mouth. You are just as fanatical as the terrorist. You are missing to point. We broke international law and illegally invaded Iraq under false pretenses that their own investigations say were not true. What more do you want. 1000 people have died to go get WMD that the administration knew weren't there in the first place. The deficit is rising at an alarming rate, for the first time in decades we have a deceasing number of jobs, we have a no win, 20 year war ahead (ask russia about this one) and all of Bushes friends are cashing in on the war and tax breaks, while everyone elses slips farther into poverty.

sloppyjoe

Well according to the debate I(small buisness owner) will not see a tax increase, but I know better, and I do expect a tax raise if Kerry is elected.

Did you forget Bush came in to office durring a huge recession. Tell me, do you think that he was in office long enough to cause this crash in the economy? And the reason he lowered taxes was to stimulate the economy. Btw did I ever say that a deficit was a good thing?

Flip-Flop? I am sorry, but that is the nature of war. Things do not always go as planned, and your the ignorant one if you think otherwise.

As far as the effort in Iraq I clearly state in my post that I do not think things are going well. I also realize that the US is not popular with everyone in Iraq, but what you have to remember is that these people were raised to hate America and everything associated with western culture. I expected, without a doubt, that some would rebel.

As far as more troops in Iraq, yes, I think that we need more. Is there something wrong with that? Do you not think that more troops would help the effort in Iraq? I realize are military is being stretched thin, and I did not say we had the troops to send just that we need them. By the way support your statement "soldier moral is low", I read one letter from a man in the marines and it states just the opposite-- the only thing downing their moral is the negative(towards the war) media.

I think you read way to much into what I wrote. It was really just trying to have fun and joke around hence the botox JOKE. I know they both sit in the makeup chair before a speach. Why are you taking such offense to these comments?

And as for your wisdom(wich I agree with)-- Did you learn nothing from Russia? If Kerry applied his theory now, to then, we would still have the threat of the Soviet Union. Or how about Hitler? If you cannot see the resiblence between Saddam(how he treated his people) and Hitler(how he treated his people) you are blind.
It was well known that Hitler was killing thousands; just like Saddam, but we(America and the world) did not act, we simply ignored it, and you know what that lead to.

BTW, have a nice day, and pull the stick out of your ***. Oh, and Kerry has a mom, so he does not need you to stickup for him because I joked about his beauty needs. I guess the real question is how does Kerry's d*** taste... probably like Edward's s***, huh? again, just jokin... ok

sloppyjoe

I have a fact for you... ^^^

A correlation between third world immigration and crime. Illegal immigrants compose fully 1/3 of the U.S. prison population (U.S. Bureau of Prison statistics, 2001).

If hella takes his child to the hospital and cannot provide health insurance(wich is outrageous due to illegals milking the system and various other reasons) he gets the shaft, but not an illegal.


The only work I see being done is on the "system".

And the worst part about illegals is that they are taking away from the tens of thousands who have worked incredibly hard and are standing in line to become a part of this country legally.

Silver arrow

Who are these people at the mall you keep talking about? Oh, the people spending in dept to keep the economy going. I we didn't go to Iraq for WMD then what other legit reason could we have had, and how did destablizing Iraq and letting it fill up with extremist make anyone safer? Iraq and Saddam cracked down very hard on muslim extremist in his country, they were a threat to his power. Look at the figures on the wealthiest and the middle class. The weathiest peoples income has increased 500% on the last 20 years. At the same time yours and mine has increased instep with inflation. I have no problem if they were just hard working people whom the american dream has come true, but they aren't. They are CEO's that have been acting illegally, unethically and immoraly to steal our money. CEO's have been running companies into the ground, collecting huge bonuses, then letting them collapes. After that one of two things happen. The government has to bail the company out (we pay) or all the employees loose their jobs, retirement funds and have to start again with nothing. All this while Bushes close friends (ENRON execs) walk away with billions. These same companies are the ones moving manufacturing out of the country, to increase their own profit. Waving the red white and blue and then stabbing every working family in the back repeatedly is why I won't vote for Bush. Do some reading and learn about economics and foreign policy, all but the extreme right wing thinks we are not headed on the right track. What do you think is going to happen in Iraq? Do you really fore see an end to this conflict that we started? You can not control 1 billion Muslims. You can't tell them what to do. You can't make them be democratic. The best you can do is try to contain them. Let Iran and Iraq fight. Let the Muslims in Africa kill each other for who knows what reason. In the end the only reason we give a flying crap about the middle east is the oil, plain and simple. One thing you are right about is that whoever is in office next is going to raise your taxes. Bush doesn't have to worry about another term if elected and we have to pay for this war with something. We are going to pay the national debt with something. The next President has no choice but to raise taxes. It's just that they will go about it differently. Bush will cut states funding for programs and not raise your federal taxes. The state will then raise your taxes to pay for roads, schools, police, firemen and services. Kerry will probably raise everyones taxes back to pre Bush figures. Either way they are both going to raise your taxes, it's silly to think that either one isn't going to. Remember Bush Sr. "read my lips, no new taxes", then turned around and raised them. I voted for him twice, he was smart honest and I know he probably had no choice but to raise taxes. Wars are expensive. Both Bush's have learned this the hard way.