Well if we assume everyone (that deserves it) in Gitmo gets sentenced to life in prison and stays in solitary confinement for the entirety of the sentence, then none I suppose...

 

If they're terrorists, they're criminals. What's so hard about granting due process so the rest of the world can't ***** when we imprison or execute them?

I agree. (Sort of- I am appalled by the idea of abortion as well, but I feel the government has no right to limit it rather than a woman having the right to choose.) We are safer as a nation while holding terrorists indefinitely, but **** Germany had a pretty low street crime rate. I'll take the terrorist threat over the loss of both liberty and the credibility the US has established as a preserver of freedoms throughout the world.

 

Bush should get the brunt of the blame for a number of things like failing miserably to secure our borders, or creating the terrorist haven that is Iraq...How about taking his eye off of Osama to go after Saddam? I could go on for days about his failings, hell he has had a Republican Congress so why can't he do anything?

You really think that giving terrorists rights under the Geneva Convention is going to be the catalyst for terrorists coming together and attacking us??? Everyone keeps saying that there hasn't been an attack since 9/11 as evidence that all this is working but it took them almost 6 years to plan 9/11. They have unlimited money and an unparalleled desire to destroy western civilization, and we can't even secure our own borders properly. They will hit us again, somehow.

 

Damn good point......I see where you are coming from now.....

 

"Securing" our borders is impossible. Not only would it be child's play to penetrate our borders undetected, it goes against the principles of liberty this country is founded on. then there's the fact that even if we did "secure" the boders, how do you determine that every person here is allowed to be? Ask a fascist government how well that works out...

 

Then we agree. You just aborted the fetus in my mind but i'm still going to support your decision so to speak.

 

Okay, I understand what you're saying now. We're not in agreement, but you tolerate my difference of opinion. You're pretty smart for a conservative.

 

Haha, on a semi-related note, I just read a quote from a Chinese government spokesman wagging a finger at us for violating human rights and international law regarding this subject. That's pretty funny.

 

Then you fully support him bearing the full brung of the law for his "illegal" actions?

 

I won't even bother with your games if you can't figure out what I was saying with BAN SUVs.

 

So exactly how do you eat your crow?

last i checked running away wasnt a proper dining style..

 

Do you support a multiple year sentence for those in possession of just enough drugs to be considered a dealer? My guess is no you do not. What about the use of illegal drugs like marijuana in general? Again, most likely no.
Breaking the law is never the best course of action but in this unique case it’s the equivalent of a teenage girl aborting a fetus in that I do not like it but support it. Read the damn thread.

 

Having read this thread several times, and having witnessed the assination of Bill Clinton's character over a matter or moral (rather than legal) action, I find it appalling that everone here is not aggressively against our current dictator (sorry, I meant 'democratically elected executive power holder'). Bush LIED about NATIONAL security and his motivation for actions against non-enemies. It's pittiful, to say the least, that everyone in this country is not demanding the resignation of the president based on his false demand on Congress and the American people to go to war in Iraq.

If it's a matter of morals, he lied to us.

If it's a matter of motivation, he mislead us.

If it's a matter of 'we tried to get the bad guy but failed', then he failed and should be held accountable.

Even if (and that's a HUGE if) this ends up seccuring the middle east, he still is to blame for the largest attrosity in the history of American politics.



Again, I repeat, shame on the GOP for giving more value to votes and office positions than they do to the wellbeing of America and Americans.

 

54321 but unlikely to happen.