Here we go again: Biden in 2008
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Here we go again: Biden in 2008
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...s_050620162136
Biden may not be as liberal as Dean but the Dems are doing it once again.
Your candidate is from Delaware. That means that he's from a part of the country that's above the Mason Dixon line. Not only are southerners less likely to vote for you but you're going to be labeled more liberal.
Your candidate is a Senator! Compare the winning Senator Candidates to Governor candidates. One has a track record they can actually see.
There may not be any worthy Dem. Governors in the South but you could possibly eliminate the other problem.
At least Hillary is smart enough to act more conservative than she truly is. Because why in the hell would you have a woman run when one of the main reason of defeat in 04 was the evangelical vote? Makes no sense. Furthermore, she may be a New York Senator but she has southern roots. She might just convince everyone she's more conservative after all. I doubt it though...
Biden may not be as liberal as Dean but the Dems are doing it once again.
Your candidate is from Delaware. That means that he's from a part of the country that's above the Mason Dixon line. Not only are southerners less likely to vote for you but you're going to be labeled more liberal.
Your candidate is a Senator! Compare the winning Senator Candidates to Governor candidates. One has a track record they can actually see.
There may not be any worthy Dem. Governors in the South but you could possibly eliminate the other problem.
At least Hillary is smart enough to act more conservative than she truly is. Because why in the hell would you have a woman run when one of the main reason of defeat in 04 was the evangelical vote? Makes no sense. Furthermore, she may be a New York Senator but she has southern roots. She might just convince everyone she's more conservative after all. I doubt it though...
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Originally Posted by Salty
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...s_050620162136
Biden may not be as liberal as Dean but the Dems are doing it once again.
Your candidate is from Delaware. That means that he's from a part of the country that's above the Mason Dixon line. Not only are southerners less likely to vote for you but you're going to be labeled more liberal.
Your candidate is a Senator! Compare the winning Senator Candidates to Governor candidates. One has a track record they can actually see.
There may not be any worthy Dem. Governors in the South but you could possibly eliminate the other problem.
At least Hillary is smart enough to act more conservative than she truly is. Because why in the hell would you have a woman run when one of the main reason of defeat in 04 was the evangelical vote? Makes no sense. Furthermore, she may be a New York Senator but she has southern roots. She might just convince everyone she's more conservative after all. I doubt it though...
Biden may not be as liberal as Dean but the Dems are doing it once again.
Your candidate is from Delaware. That means that he's from a part of the country that's above the Mason Dixon line. Not only are southerners less likely to vote for you but you're going to be labeled more liberal.
Your candidate is a Senator! Compare the winning Senator Candidates to Governor candidates. One has a track record they can actually see.
There may not be any worthy Dem. Governors in the South but you could possibly eliminate the other problem.
At least Hillary is smart enough to act more conservative than she truly is. Because why in the hell would you have a woman run when one of the main reason of defeat in 04 was the evangelical vote? Makes no sense. Furthermore, she may be a New York Senator but she has southern roots. She might just convince everyone she's more conservative after all. I doubt it though...
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Originally Posted by Salty
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...s_050620162136
Biden may not be as liberal as Dean but the Dems are doing it once again.
Your candidate is from Delaware. That means that he's from a part of the country that's above the Mason Dixon line. Not only are southerners less likely to vote for you but you're going to be labeled more liberal.
Your candidate is a Senator! Compare the winning Senator Candidates to Governor candidates. One has a track record they can actually see.
There may not be any worthy Dem. Governors in the South but you could possibly eliminate the other problem.
At least Hillary is smart enough to act more conservative than she truly is. Because why in the hell would you have a woman run when one of the main reason of defeat in 04 was the evangelical vote? Makes no sense. Furthermore, she may be a New York Senator but she has southern roots. She might just convince everyone she's more conservative after all. I doubt it though...
Biden may not be as liberal as Dean but the Dems are doing it once again.
Your candidate is from Delaware. That means that he's from a part of the country that's above the Mason Dixon line. Not only are southerners less likely to vote for you but you're going to be labeled more liberal.
Your candidate is a Senator! Compare the winning Senator Candidates to Governor candidates. One has a track record they can actually see.
There may not be any worthy Dem. Governors in the South but you could possibly eliminate the other problem.
At least Hillary is smart enough to act more conservative than she truly is. Because why in the hell would you have a woman run when one of the main reason of defeat in 04 was the evangelical vote? Makes no sense. Furthermore, she may be a New York Senator but she has southern roots. She might just convince everyone she's more conservative after all. I doubt it though...
Biden can kiss my posterior.
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Originally Posted by Howard Dean
I admired Wellstone [Sen. Paul Wellstone - Author of The Conscience of a Liberal - Reclaiming the Compassionate Agenda, though he's a bit more liberal than I am.
Something tells me he went forward with liberal actions and ideals as he continued to reassure everyone he’s “for the people” and a conservative at heart. Good plan on paper even though Dole proved it was transparent crap. Sorta like how every ***** liberal at a anti-war protest is conveniently pro-solider. Yeah... I get it...
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Originally Posted by VIBEELEVEN
That's a crappy choice to have to make. And that site sucks because you can only vote in the poll if you give your email and there's no box to unclick to not get junk mail. Weak.
Originally Posted by MVWRX
That's a crappy choice to have to make. And that site sucks because you can only vote in the poll if you give your email and there's no box to unclick to not get junk mail. Weak.
did you see the un flattering pics? 
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
They both are hard to listen to, but I'd rather hear Condi than hear the liberal nonsense spewing out of Hitlery.
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Originally Posted by Salty
If you're correct then his leaning toward the left in the last few years is similar to Hillary's leaning toward the right as a political move for the White House. I'd be interested to learn why you don't think he's not liberal. Seriously, my knowledge of his work with Vermont is limited.
Something tells me he went forward with liberal actions and ideals as he continued to reassure everyone he’s “for the people” and a conservative at heart. Good plan on paper even though Dole proved it was transparent crap. Sorta like how every ***** liberal at a anti-war protest is conveniently pro-solider. Yeah... I get it...
Something tells me he went forward with liberal actions and ideals as he continued to reassure everyone he’s “for the people” and a conservative at heart. Good plan on paper even though Dole proved it was transparent crap. Sorta like how every ***** liberal at a anti-war protest is conveniently pro-solider. Yeah... I get it...
Ballanced the budged for eleven years in a row.....without a mandate
supports the death penalty
supported Biden/Lugar
Supported the Afghanastan war
A+ rating from the NRA
Supports states rights on gun control
I'd be interested in hearing why YOU think Dean is a liberal.
And what does Dole (Liddy or Bob) have to do with anything?
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Originally Posted by VIBEELEVEN
You forgot the fact that his frequent psycotic rants probably also would classify him as either a 5150 or or having tourettes
Personally getting villified for that one outburst was rather stupid. So what if the guy gets excited. That would have been much better than the cardboard cutout John Kerry IMO....At least the guy can give a good pumped up exciting speech without stumbling over the english language, like some that we know.
I guess it all depends on your opinion of psycotic rants. I wasn't really remarking on his "scream"speach, I was talking about his irresponsible, conspiricy theory comments and insinuations that certain politicians on the other side knew about 9/11 before it happened, and used the tragedy for political purposes.
I agree that Kerry and Bush were ****ty choices, but I think Dean still would have been worse.
I agree that Kerry and Bush were ****ty choices, but I think Dean still would have been worse.
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I suppose you are talking about when Dean was interviewed on NPR about Bush Stonewalling the 9/11 commision? Here is the transcript:
So you see he wasn't actually suggesting that any of them have any truth to them, he was actually stating that by stonewalling the investigation it leaves the admin open to crazy theories like this to be spread. Either way he was taken way out of context.
Caller: Once we get you in the White House, would you please make sure that there is a thorough investigation of 9/11, and not stonewall it?
Dean: Yes. There is a report, which the president is suppressing evidence for, which is a thorough investigation of 9/11.
Rehm: Why do you think he's suppressing that report?
Dean: I don't know. There are many theories about it. The most interesting theory that I've heard so far--which is nothing more than a theory, it can't be proved--is that he was warned ahead of time by the Saudis. Now who knows what the real situation is? But the trouble is, by suppressing that kind of information, you lead to those kinds of theories, whether they have any truth to them or not. And eventually they get repeated as fact. So I think the president is taking a great risk by suppressing the key information that should go to the Kean commission. "
Dean: Yes. There is a report, which the president is suppressing evidence for, which is a thorough investigation of 9/11.
Rehm: Why do you think he's suppressing that report?
Dean: I don't know. There are many theories about it. The most interesting theory that I've heard so far--which is nothing more than a theory, it can't be proved--is that he was warned ahead of time by the Saudis. Now who knows what the real situation is? But the trouble is, by suppressing that kind of information, you lead to those kinds of theories, whether they have any truth to them or not. And eventually they get repeated as fact. So I think the president is taking a great risk by suppressing the key information that should go to the Kean commission. "