The best statistic / map I have seen is the correlation between education and who people cast their vote for. We have the dumbest president voted in by the dumbest people

And because he is a good leader? Oh yeah, he landed that fighter jet on the carrier. Go get em Dubya!!

 

Of course you would think its the best, it affirms the liberals notion that they are smarter than everyone else. There were a lot of reasons that people voted for Bush, a lack of intelligence was not one of them. Did that statistic show the average IQ of voters or was it just of school kids that took an IQ test? I've never even taken an IQ test, and I don't plan on it. They mean absolutely nothing.

 

deyes... good point. I also havent taken such a test and am bugged by people who falunt those numbers

still, that graph amuses me

 

So you admit he targeted a specific group but yet this wasn't a factor on who voted for him? The religious right did come out to vote and strong. Thats my point. Thats been my point since the start. For you to admit that he did target them and still deny the fact that they are the reason he won baffles me. You do know that all the states he won where all in the bible belt? Maybe if I tell you again, his plan was for the religious right to support him and suprise they did... come on its not that hard.

 

NO, you said.


I don't think it was the religous right that won the election for him, they were less of a factor then they were in the last election. Voters believed he was a better choice for the fight against terrorism, that is why he won. The defining issue of this election, his administration and campaign were his stance on terrorism and the war in Iraq. That is why Kerry attacked him on the subject so much.

 

Salty you keep saying that liberals are guilty of Elitism. Couldn't you say the same thing about the right-wing bible beaters who think that think thier morals are so much higher then everyone who doesn't have the same thoughts?

 

I think it's more Republicans trying to give Hillary the Dem's ticket- because they all know she wouldn't stand a chance.

 

Do you find it at all interesting that virtually every major population center (which happen to be the country's most likely potential terror targets) voted democrat? Seeing they have so much at stake in the terror war, why didn't they vote for the candidate who would better protect them?

 

How does that work? I thought they would have to be nominated by their party?

 

Terror or not those states voted the party line just like good democrats do. They have voted democrats for decades, if not nearly centuries.

 

Go watch cspan deyes you'll see some real party line humping by the republicans when it comes to voting.

 

My point was, that if the war on terror was large factor in the election, for either side, wouldn't you think that those most at risk would vote for the person who would better protect them? Seeing that the pop. centers voted for Kerry, and assuming Bush was the better man for the war on terror- I think we can conclude that the war on terror did not affect the election as much as we all thought it would. If you want to say they voted democratic because they have so for years, you can't have a double standard and infer that middle America (which has consistently voted Rep. for years) voted on the issues- not the party lines.

Bottom line is, that nobody really knows why the other party voted, much less their own party. We'd all like to generalize the opposite side and lump them together into one fun-loving bunch. Doing this, while making it easier to make points, will always cause an argument because of those out there who don't follow the generalization. Let's just try to be fair, here.

 

Well said.

 

WTF? I wasn't complaining, I was explaining. Scoobsport asked.......

 

Lets not assume to much here. Obviously the people that voted for Kerry thought he was the better choice for the war on terror. Its the first time voters that was telling. What motivated these first time voters to vote for bush? Was it religion?
Numbers have shown that it was the war on terror and the war in Iraq seeing as the religious right was less of a factor in this race then the last. Religion certainly wasn't the reason that the liberal left voted for Kerry was it?


I'm trying to be fair we don't know the reason why everyone voted. That was never in question. However of the voters that cited the reason they voted. The numbers show, "Terrorism was cited by 19 percent of voters as the most important issue, and these citizens gave their votes to the president by an even larger margin than morality voters: 86 percent for Bush, 14 percent for Kerry."