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Old 02-24-2006, 07:44 AM
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Good ole rummy, and his 9-11 meeting notes

http://www.outragedmoderates.org/200...-obtained.html

haha good stuff in there.. wonder what was under the parts that were blacked out..
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On July 23, 2005, I submitted an electronic Freedom of Information Act request to the Department of Defense seeking DoD staffer Stephen Cambone's notes from meetings with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on the afternoon of September 11, 2001. Cambone's notes were cited heavily in the 9/11 Commission Report's reconstruction of the day's events. On February 10, 2006, I received a response from the DoD which includes partially-redacted copies of Cambone's notes. The documents can be viewed as a photo set on Flickr.

The released notes document Donald Rumsfeld's 2:40 PM instructions to General Myers to find the "[b]est info fast . . . judge whether good enough [to] hit S.H. [Saddam Hussein] at same time - not only UBL [Usama Bin Laden]" (as discussed on p. 334-335 of the 9/11 Commission Report and in Bob Woodward's Plan of Attack).

In addition, the documents confirm the contents of CBS News' Sept. 4, 2002 report "Plans For Iraq Attack Began on 9/11," which quoted Rumsfeld's notes as stating: "Go massive . . . Sweep it all up. Things related and not." These lines were not mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report or Woodward's Plan of Attack, and to my knowledge, have not been independently confirmed by any other source. After the Rathergate fiasco, I wondered if CBS had been fooled into publishing a story that, from a publicity perspective, seemed too good to be true.

Finally, these documents unveil a previously undisclosed part of the 2:40 PM discussion. Several lines below the "judge whether good enough [to] hit S.H. at same time" line, Cambone's notes from the conversation read: "Hard to get a good case."

In addition to being available as a photo set on Flickr, you can download the documents in PDF format below. BitTorrent users can also download a 6.9 MB zip file containing PDFs of all the documents. [Torrent / Prodigem torrent details page]

Notes from 12:05 PM meeting [PDF]
Notes from 12:05 PM meeting (negative) [PDF]
Notes from 2:40 PM meeting [PDF]
Notes from 2:40 PM meeting (negative) [PDF]
Notes from 9:53 PM meeting [PDF]
Notes from 9:53 PM meeting (negative) [PDF]
DoD's FOIA release letter [PDF]
Raw scan of page 3 of notes [PDF]
Raw scan of page 5 of notes [PDF]
Raw scan of page 6 of notes [PDF]
Raw scan of page 9 of notes [PDF]

(Edited on 2/19/06 to include BitTorrent link, and on 2/23/06 to correct a typo and add another link to the Flickr photo set.).
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Lets see what those republicans say that this was not planned out since the start have to say now. Sigh, innocent military and civilians lost for nothing. Disgusting.
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what cracks me the **** up is the silence in here.. meanwhile the iraq thread has 21+ posts...

makes you wonder...

only serves to reenforce that science is a mother****er thread dont it....

****ing sickening if you ask me (people avoiding information, if it contradicts their own world view)

its sick ****s like that in this world that **** things up
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Yeah clinton lied about bj big hoopla, a bush lies about the reasons he sends us to war no big hoopla. Pathetic.
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Old 02-27-2006, 03:49 PM
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hmm no one from the bush camp wants to make a remark? no retarded helladumb posts about the authenticity of the notes?
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Yeah clinton lied about bj big hoopla, a bush lies about the reasons he sends us to war no big hoopla. Pathetic.

Now that there is proof about the lies, and some of the conservatives here have admitted that there was lying about the reasons for going to war, I wonder why this hasn't been put more in the spot light. Pathetic really is the best word to describe it...
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But they didn't lie under oath! sigh
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