Driving is a priveledge?
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Driving is a priveledge?
I know I heard it before, but today it really opened up my eyes.
My old landlord, is this sweet old man. He is like 75 years old, yet looking and acting very young. He is an Iraqi born persian. He immigrated from Iraq right before Saddam came to power and settled first in UK, then in US. He is a US citizen. He is also an Imam, or the muslic preist. He leads the Islamic Society of California and operates a "mosk" from an old Boy Scout farm high up in the hills of Fairfax, CA.
So today I went to visit him and check to see how he was doing. He always has millions of fun stories to tell and is a knowledge chest. I love talking to him. In his little hut in that mosk, he has lots of great pictures from his past. Two pictures that brought my attention today was a picture of him with Dalai Lama and one with Mother Teresa. Besides pictures, he has lots of other interesting stuff haning on the wall. One of which is a personally signed letter from President Jimmy Carter. The letter is a thank you letter from the US governemt for the help in resolution of the hostage situation in Iran back over 20 years ago.
So anyways, when I was leaving, I noticed that his car was not there and I asked him how he got there. He told me that his driver brought him there. I was surprised as he used to drive everywhere in his Lexus. He laughed and said that 'Mr. Bush does not want me to drive...". I asked him what he meant and apparantly there NOW is a law that any muslic religious leaders are not allowed to drive in the US. Their licences have been revoked by the Department of Homeland Security. I was amazed. That is just plain stupid. To limit ones right to freely move from point A to point B is a fundamental right. But then again, as they say, Driving is a Priveledge. While I am very tolerant of Bush's administration, that made me very mad. If that is not a clear case of discrimination based on religion, what is it then?
My old landlord, is this sweet old man. He is like 75 years old, yet looking and acting very young. He is an Iraqi born persian. He immigrated from Iraq right before Saddam came to power and settled first in UK, then in US. He is a US citizen. He is also an Imam, or the muslic preist. He leads the Islamic Society of California and operates a "mosk" from an old Boy Scout farm high up in the hills of Fairfax, CA.
So today I went to visit him and check to see how he was doing. He always has millions of fun stories to tell and is a knowledge chest. I love talking to him. In his little hut in that mosk, he has lots of great pictures from his past. Two pictures that brought my attention today was a picture of him with Dalai Lama and one with Mother Teresa. Besides pictures, he has lots of other interesting stuff haning on the wall. One of which is a personally signed letter from President Jimmy Carter. The letter is a thank you letter from the US governemt for the help in resolution of the hostage situation in Iran back over 20 years ago.
So anyways, when I was leaving, I noticed that his car was not there and I asked him how he got there. He told me that his driver brought him there. I was surprised as he used to drive everywhere in his Lexus. He laughed and said that 'Mr. Bush does not want me to drive...". I asked him what he meant and apparantly there NOW is a law that any muslic religious leaders are not allowed to drive in the US. Their licences have been revoked by the Department of Homeland Security. I was amazed. That is just plain stupid. To limit ones right to freely move from point A to point B is a fundamental right. But then again, as they say, Driving is a Priveledge. While I am very tolerant of Bush's administration, that made me very mad. If that is not a clear case of discrimination based on religion, what is it then?
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So Bush lovers, how resonable does that "I'll give up my rights for my safety" excuse sound now? thats ****ing rediculous. You should call up the news and let them know about that because I doubt many citizens know that their government is doing this.
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I'm a Bush supporter. I support most of his decisons. MOST. This one I def. don't agree with. But I do agree with YOU that the Sac news channels should be notified. This could become national news. Especially with Davis. Those liberals would go BALLISTIC with this story.
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Originally Posted by MBasile
So Bush lovers, how resonable does that "I'll give up my rights for my safety" excuse sound now? thats ****ing rediculous. You should call up the news and let them know about that because I doubt many citizens know that their government is doing this.
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Originally Posted by jvick125
I'm a Bush supporter. I support most of his decisons. MOST. This one I def. don't agree with. But I do agree with YOU that the Sac news channels should be notified. This could become national news. Especially with Davis. Those liberals would go BALLISTIC with this story.
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Originally Posted by MBasile
So Bush lovers, how resonable does that "I'll give up my rights for my safety" excuse sound now? thats ****ing rediculous. You should call up the news and let them know about that because I doubt many citizens know that their government is doing this.
However, this DL thing. It does not do much. What is the purpose of it? If someone really wanted to drive from point A to point B, they still would. Or get someone to drive them. However, having no DL just makes it more complicated. That what I do not understand.
By me, having to be butt searched at the airport does something good. Because I know that people that can do harm, will be searched just like me there. But, people that want to use their driving priveledge to do something bad, can still do it. That's my point.
I am actually trying to find that "law" somewhere on line...
Here is another example. The whole thing about muslim women and their drivers licenses. The were complaining that they wanted to have a pic taken with the head scarf, which means that they cannot be positively identified. To that I say that they should not be able to get DL. 1st, you must be "identifiable". Second off all, I don't see it being safe driving with a covered face. So, that law SHOULD have passed. Yet in FL, you can have your picture taken with your face covered. That is silly. No face, no DL. I am just saying that to show that I see both sides of the aspect of potential profiling.
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people that want to do harm, if they look like your average american will NOT be searched like you. I'm diabetic and have gone through airport security with syringes in my bag and havent been stopped...and I didnt even tell them "I'm diabetic so I have syringes in here" Profiling takes focus away from the fact that your ideas are not solely based on your religion or ethnic background. People make up their own thoughts, and anybody could have the idea to take down a plane...or drive a car (and do whatever with it that the government is afraid they will do)...even a white person!
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
I think it's best we all understand the law before we poo-poo it.
If true, this law is frankly unconstitutional. That's three or four amendments fooked by the bush administration.
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True, and people that want to use a car for something bad, would care less about having the DL in hand.
I still think it's horrible that an immigrant turned US citizen (of 30+ years) has to have something like this happen to them. It's upsurd and offending.
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It's also entirely possible that some stellar, over educated DMV employee just told him that because they love their job so much and felt they were doing the right thing. And this supposed "law"(which I highly doubt is real) doesn't make any sense because that isn't the structure of any terrorist organization Muslim, Catholic, Protestant or otherwise. No imam is going to be driving around and going on suicide missions or anything like that.