I simply quoted the leader of Iran... you know that much right?

It's really not my problem if you aren't up to date on world events.

 

I do, but some don't.
That was my point.

 

That is pretty much what a lot of them have been saying about Arabs in general for a long time....

1. "There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies *not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy." Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001

2. "The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more".... Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000

3. " [The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982.

4. "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." " Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

5. "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.

6. "How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to." Golda Maier, March 8, 1969.

7. "There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969

8. "The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war." Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972.

9. David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the *****, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

10. Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 : "We must do everything to insure they ( the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget."

11. "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

12. "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio. (Certainly the FBI's cover-up of the Israeli spy ring/phone tap scandal suggests that Mr. Sharon may not have been joking.)

13. "We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours." Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.

14. "We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never do return" David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.

15. "We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai." David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

16. "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum"

17. "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.

18. "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

19. Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters" Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.

20. "There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it is easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than over those of a tenant. [I] tend to support the latter view and have an additional argument:...the need to sustain the character of the state which will henceforth be Jewish...with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15 percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940 [and] it is entered in my diary." Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5.

21. "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them." Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

22. "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism,colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands." Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.

23. "Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly." Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.

24. "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]

not enough?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/palestinians.html


All this discord began when the UN created two states, Israel and Palestine, and Israel started out refusing to recognize Palestine. This prompted the other Arab nations to refuse to recognize Israel and the whole region has been going to hell in a hand basket ever since. If Israel would only learn to accord to other people the same rights it demands for itself, none of this would be happening.

 

http://civillibertarian.blogspot.com...srael-too.html

 

israel will kick their ***. they sleep with their boots on.

 

Which nation is burning numerous Israeli flags in streets as we speak with prepubescent children and the overwhelming support of their government? How can you people possibly side next to that (not necessarily for it)? They have literally centered hollywood-types stunts around the destruction of the Israeli flag and parade their nuclear program like a true testament to Allah. Although there's questionable proof on Israel's nuke program, you can rest assured they have them. So why aren't they waiving their arsenal like a shiny new toy?

Articles aside, I could never understand how Liberals could ever be against Israel in modern times. Sure they started out very ruthless, but Israel has been a peaceful, equal opportunity and free society much like their western counterparts for years. The only way I can justify the liberal standpoint is that they'll cast aside the greater good so long as everything is castrated. What do you people hold sacred? Enlighten me, please!

 

one more time for those who don't like to read:


If Israel would only learn to accord to other people the same rights it demands for itself, none of this would be happening.

And let me go on the record by saying I am not "against Israel" anymore than I am "against America".

What I am against are those people who- under any flag, are willing to pass collective judgement against others and wish ill will on anyone because of their religion, color or what country they happened to be born into, with no cause or contact with those they denigrate whatsoever.


And I think that covers a few of you here too...

 

if it comes to that, no question, but it really doesn't have to come down to that.

 

If it does come to that expect all hell to break loose. The arabic nations will not just sit back and use it as a excuse to attack Israel. Their is no love for Israel at all considering the past. Pluss economically we will be hurting while this goes on. I don't see anyone winning. And lets hope to god the US doesn't enter it.

 

Israel as a sovereign nation has no obligation to extend rights to anyone or anything but Israel. They are smart, tough, and the U.S. has their back.

I don't understand why it would be in their best interest to do anything to please any of the Islamic nations... even the one you say the UN made-up called palestine.

 

So you really are against Iran? You do realize Iran reflects the worst level of what you describe here whereas Israel comes in at a distant 10th. Sure, they say things against the Islamic states out of frustration but they don't hold a candle to Iran on the bullying, idiocy and complete BS scale. Not even close.

I mean at least Israel affords the same rights to Muslims within Israel when Iran would gladly lynch you publicly for holding a cross. When they withdrew from Gaza one of Israel's major concerns where how many Palestinians within Gaza may be without jobs because their Jewish employers had to leave. I think that speaks volumes.

All i'm saying is that you don't post articles that weakly attempt to bring down Israel to Iran's level unless you truly despise anything relating to what America currently is. The proof is that Israel is so far above Iran in every respect that it's not even comparable. Another thing to consider is that Iran doesn't give a damn about us. They would gladly kill you in cold blood as you try and convince them you're on their side. But whatever, man... sounds like your hatred toward high school jocks carried over to your adult life.

 

Of course war is never a good thing. I don't know where I would stand on this. I'd have to give it serious consideration.

 

Certain people in Iran you bet, maybe even a not insignificant minority of Iranians, maybe even a majority, but I doubt that.





ah... ya caught me there Salty- so true!