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Old 01-11-2006, 06:56 PM
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Alito confirmation hearing

Seems like his answers are very strong toward the bullying Democrats. His wife even stormed out of the building in tears today!

But anyways, so far his answers have been pretty spot on imho. Seems the key argument the Dems are attacking is how Alito once wrote "the Constitution does not protect a right to an abortion." It's one of the most unclear subjects regarding the constitution (I personally don’t think it does even though I think abortion should be legal) and Alito answers with:

Originally Posted by Alito
I don't think it's appropriate for me to speak about issues that could realistically come up.
Haha Brilliant!

The Dems even went as far to ask whether or not he was a "closet bigot."

They sure are desperate!

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SCOTUS confirmation hearings are a farce. They should just do away with the charade, as the nominees rarely answer any questions in a substantive manner. Scalito is no exception.

Originally Posted by salty
His wife even stormed out of the building in tears today!
She left the room in tears after remarks by Lindsey Graham (R-idiot)

Get it right salty....did you even watch, or are you getting this shyte from limpballs?

Jeez man, he listed membership in CAP on his resume' CAP is a princeton society that opposes admission of women and blacks to princeton.

Who even has to ask if he's a bigot?

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Old 01-12-2006, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
Get it right salty....did you even watch, or are you getting this shyte from limpballs?
I'm tired of you always thinking you're right when you're clearly wrong. I'll bold the important parts because you seem to grasp that...

Originally Posted by AP
udge Alito, I am sorry that you've had to go through this. I am sorry that your family has had to sit here and listen to this," said Graham.

Moments earlier, the senator had asked Alito, "Are you really a closet bigot?" The nominee said no, and Graham said, "No sir, you're not."

Graham's exchange with the nominee came after withering questions from several Judiciary Committee Democrats.

Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch (news, bio, voting record) of Utah suggested that Alito's wife was upset with the comments of Democrats. "She's sick and tired of the mistreatment of her husband," Hatch said. He also said that she was suffering from a migraine headache

Graham was simply reiterating a comment made by Sen. Ted Kennedy as to whether or not he really was a "closet bigot." Graham was agreeing with Alito in attempt to point out how absurd the questions from the Democrats were which is when his wife finally broke down. You get it right, moron!

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Originally Posted by Salty
I'm tired of you always thinking you're right when you're clearly wrong. I'll bold the important parts because you seem to grasp that...




Graham was simply reiterating a comment made by Sen. Ted Kennedy as to whether or not he really was a "closet bigot." Graham was agreeing with Alito in attempt to point out how absurd the questions from the Democrats were. You get it right, moron!
SO Graham (R) is the one who used the quote "closet bigot" Kennedy never said those words.

You are an idiot, Salty.
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OMG!

Yes, Alito's wife broke down after Graham's comment but what do you suppose led her to the breaking point!? Alito's wife even made a negative remark toward Ted Kennedy after the session. I read it yesterday but I can't seem to find what she said now...

Way to make a ground breaking point, Lojasmo! Everyone read that? It was the trigger from Graham that really mattered, not the barrage of ammunition or weapon being held by the Democrats.

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Originally Posted by Salty
OMG!

It was the trigger from Graham that really mattered, not the barrage of ammunition or weapon being held by the Democrats.
Originally Posted by salty
Dems even went as far to ask whether or not he was a "closet bigot."
No...my point is that you are full of shyte. No democrat ever said "closet bigot" That is a quote taken from a republican....his intention was to exonerate Alito from the taint of his belonging to a racist organization.

Your attributing it to "Dems" is blatant chicanery. You are a disengenuous schmuck.

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Graham was simply reiterating a comment made by Sen. Ted Kennedy as to whether or not he really was a "closet bigot."
Nope. Graham was making a dishonest point. A DISHONEST POINT.

Originally Posted by Senator Edward Kennedy
And when I look at that record in light of his 1985 job application to the Reagan Justice Department, it is even more troubling. That document lays out an ideological agenda that highlights his pride in belonging to an alumni group at Princeton that opposed the admission of women and proposed to curb the admission of racial minorities. It proclaims his legal opinion that the Constitution does not protect the right of women to make their own reproductive decisions. It expresses outright hostility to the basic principle of one person, one vote, affirmed by the Supreme Court as essential to ensuring that all Americans have a voice in their government.

This application was not a youthful indiscretion. It was a document prepared by a mature, 35-year-old professional.

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The dems are doing everything to make these things like the McCarthy hearings, but you can substitute "communist" with "pro-life." Have you at any time conspired with the evil pro-life agenda?

Democrats are trying everything in their power to stop Alito because he is fair minded on abortion, and they are fear-mongering by saying women will be forced to have back-alley abortions! Who are they freaking kidding!

Sorry, but abortion is not protected in the constitution! Why is everyone fixated on abortion when it has very little to do with the majority of cases Alito will face?
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Originally Posted by lojasmo
No...my point is that you are full of shyte. No democrat ever said "closet bigot" That is a quote taken from a republican....his intention was to exonerate Alito from the taint of his belonging to a racist organization.

Your attributing it to "Dems" is blatant chicanery. You are a disengenuous schmuck.
My point is that it doesn't matter if any Dem's did or didn't directly use the phrase "closet bigot." The fact of the matter was that most everyone of the Democrat's, especially Sen. Ted Kennedy, pushed this type of smear agenda. There were a couple online reports on how: “Sen. Ted Kennedy led Democrats in a furious bid to tar her husband as a bigot.”

Alito's wife burst out in tears because the attacks the Democrats made toward Altio eventually built-up like a tea kettle. The reaction that she gave after Graham's comment was a trigger to her already being upset over the Democrats' aggressive, tasteless, and increasingly desperate bombardment toward her husband.

You make it seem like the Republicans are trying their hardest to get Alito out as well. Your whole reasoning behind this makes no sense whatsoever.
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For those of you with Comcast account please watch this video and tell me if Alito's wife broke down because of Graham, or because of the crap spewing from the Democrats:

http://www.comcast.net/providers/fan...abcfannews.xml

Someone other than lojasmo, please!
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
The dems are doing everything to make these things like the McCarthy hearings
Originally Posted by helladumb
McCarthy was right
Democrats are trying everything in their power to stop Alito because he is fair minded on abortion, and they are fear-mongering by saying women will be forced to have back-alley abortions!
Please provide a citation for this claim

Why is everyone fixated on abortion when it has very little to do with the majority of cases Alito will face?
Because it is a very important issue to a lot of people (women) who don't want their freedom to obtain medical care legislated by a bunch of white men (congress)
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There are probably about two "extreme liberals" in the entirety of the senate, but there are certainly about thirty ignorant bible thumping schmucks.

Count your lucky stars.


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My point is that it doesn't matter if any Dem's did or didn't directly use the phrase "closet bigot." The fact of the matter was that most everyone of the Democrat's, especially Sen. Ted Kennedy, pushed this type of smear agenda. There were a couple online reports on how: “Sen. Ted Kennedy led Democrats in a furious bid to tar her husband as a bigot.”
First of all, a couple online reports is a bullshyte source.

But you SAID (sorry) that the Democrats said the words[/b]closet bigot[/b] which isn't even close to being true. MY POINT was that you are lying about the facts of the case

Originally Posted by salty
if you post a lame thought without substantial evidence, historical evidence or any source (even a source from Oregon college students will do) I’ll just lock it and let it die.
Alito was a member of an organization, the goal of which was to exclude blacks and women from his university. Would you object to the democrats pointing out the fact that he belonged to the KKK (if that had been the case?)

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Originally Posted by lojasmo
Alito was a member of an organization, the goal of which was to exclude blacks and women from his university.
Not true. Where did you pick up this lie? Moveon.org?

That statement is misleading to say the least.
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Admit it, lo, if a Socialist judge like Ruth was being confirmed in the same manner, you'd be defending her.

Ruth had the easiest confirmation hearing evaR, and not one negative word was said.
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The only thing I would have to say to the above comment is this; previous presidents to Buch Jr, when making nominations, have consulted a leading person of the opposite party before making the actual nomination. This creates a situation where partisan politics counts less than the actual qualifications of the person as a judge. Bush Jr, however, has made all of his nominations without consulting any democrats at all. This has created a situation where partisan politics dominates the scene, because the democrats had no say whatsoever in the nominations.

I don't even think Alito is that bad. From what I can tell he's a fine judge and should be confirmed. But I do understand why the democrats in congress are pissed...for the first time, they were excluded from the nomination process and allowed only in the confirmation process.
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Originally Posted by HellaDumb
Not true. Where did you pick up this lie? Moveon.org?

That statement is misleading to say the least.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...ck=1&cset=true
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
The only thing I would have to say to the above comment is this; previous presidents to Buch Jr, when making nominations, have consulted a leading person of the opposite party before making the actual nomination. This creates a situation where partisan politics counts less than the actual qualifications of the person as a judge. Bush Jr, however, has made all of his nominations without consulting any democrats at all. This has created a situation where partisan politics dominates the scene, because the democrats had no say whatsoever in the nominations.

I don't even think Alito is that bad. From what I can tell he's a fine judge and should be confirmed. But I do understand why the democrats in congress are pissed...for the first time, they were excluded from the nomination process and allowed only in the confirmation process.

I understand what your saying.
But is the president required to do this, or is simply common courtesy/tradition?
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